I am sorry, but there was a fair majority of his interceptions going down the stretch of our last 5 games that Pennington wouldn't even make. Some of his picks were beyond stupid. I am OK with letting him try again this year (he better brign it to camp and conditioning, though), but if he starts throwing picks like those again, I would put him on the pine fast even to the point of costing him his consecutive start record at the QB position.
I want him back and for him to do well if only so I dont feel like a total nob for ordering the #4 Favre top I bought at the start of last season.
I'm teetering on whether I could give Favre another year, but a total fanboy who uses the number '4' instead of the word 'for' as a tribute to Favre would tend to drive me to want him gone if only to get rid of the sheer gayness. I hate fanboys.
No, you see, I'm a Jets fan but I'm also a Falcons fan for John Abraham and a Dolphins fan for Chad Pennington. I was also a Steelers fan because of James Farrior, and an Eagles fan because of Hugh Douglas and a head injury I had in the late 90s. All because "it's gone beyond the 'brand'". Or some retarded BULLSHAT like that.
I've decided to stick with Favre no matter where he ends up, hopefully I will be a fan of retirement when all is said and done.
Wow, even if this is true, did you even think for a second it might be a good thing to think long-term?
I'm glad to see you got the point. Or at least read it, even if you don't understand. I hate to burst your bubble, but your sacred Jets Superbowl III team has nothing to do with the Jets of today, except the four letters J E T S. Players are different, coaches and FO is all different, owner is different, even stadium and uniforms are different. They are only the same team in your mind. All that is the same is that there is the same legal entity that owns the name "Jets" (though its ownership has changed hands) and it owns a franchise membership in the closed monopoly of the NFL. This is the same team even less than the house I grew up in is still my home, even though its been bought and sold several times and I have no idea who lives there now. At least with that place it's still in the same location, made of the same wood. Where is Shea? Hate to burst your bubble.
nice argument except for the fact that tens of thousands of the same people are still rooting for that same team, giving credence to the fact that the Jets are, in fact, the same team that won SBIII...can't say the same about your old house since your family of 4.5 people are about the only ones that cared about it then, and the new family of 4.5 people are about the only ones that care about it now.
Yes, all good points. I confess I was gong to an extreme to make a point, this guy seems to be all about whoever wears the uniform right now and whatever uniform looks like & where it gets put on. But it's still more than that, don't you think? I mean, you still care about Namath and Vinny and Martin and various other players even though they haven't worn a Jets uniform for a very long time, right? So at least you see that it isn't JUST about the Jets, that it's also about the players ... and if they played here long enough, and/or were successful enough while they were here, you still care about those players even though they have no official relationship witht he Jets today, right? I'm only saying this to be honest: quite frankly you long time Jets fans have never had an experience remotely like I have, watching a player like Favre -- playing quarterback, the highest profile position -- play every damn week, not missing ONE one game for almost two decades, AND watching him be so damn successful doing it at the same time (only one losing season). If you did, I think you'd easily understand how the individual player can have an identity that is more than just being under contract to a team. It has been an incredible privilege to witness that. I suspect it probably has come to an end now, but I don't regret or apologize or concede to the mocking of someone like abyzmul for following him until it has ended. And when someone who has become that integral to the identity and fabric of a team has been cast out of that team, it can force you to reevaluate what "team" is. Fortunately I came out of it still a Packers fan, with the Packers its very easy because like I said the team is embedded int he community, hell the community OWNS the team, there are thousands of shareholders. But I was still forced to work that out, maybe it was "bullshat" for me too a year ago, but I had to come to terms with it, it's something I never consciously thought about before.
Well I'm glad to know that we can get our team loyalty blown out of the water by someone who wouldn't have dreamed about rooting for the Jets 7 months ago, and glad to know that Super Bowl III, pretty much the reason so many greybeard fans remain Jets fans to this day, means nothing. Glad to know that you can rationalize jumping bandwagons so easily as well. Good god, do you expect anyone to buy your self-styled bullshit? We are Jets fans. You are a Brett Favre fan. That's the reality.
The reality is that I am a Jets and Favre fan, because I am a Packers fan to a degree you cannot even comprehend, let alone match. You said in another thread you'd trade away the soul of nine Jets teams to uninterrupted failure to just get one moment of euphoria that you can share in. Yippee-yay, go Jets! Someone who says that can only mean they don't really plan to be on that "bandwagon" when it's gong through all the ruts, they just want the feeling of being there when the sun peeked out.
I don't think its a matter of really hating on Farve its just the cap space vs his performance. I'm sure we can get another QB to throw another 22 league leading interceptions for a lot less that 12 million. Even Clemens could pull that off.
