How would you build your team? Trade your #1 draft pick for a proven vet or take the chance of drafting a bust?? Why do some people have such a hard on for draft picks. You rather go through the draft and risk drafting a bust?? Wouldnt you rather trade a 1st rd pick for a guy like Cutler, a proven NFL caliper qb? I would rather go into the season with Cutler than an unproven Sanchez. This goes for any vet in on the trade block. You wouldn't rather tie your money into a proven guy? They give this rookies these huge contracts and they havent even proven themselves to be NFL caliper players yet. I rather know what Im spending my money on then take a chance..Its obvious the Jets rather build the team through proven vets. Thats why they are heavy players in free agency.
Is this an NFL caliper? Seriously though, if a young veteran becomes available, you have to consider it, as there isn't really a large matter of age/tread life between a 25 y/o and a 22 y/o. I think it all depends on the players involved.
yeah we'd all like to trade our first round pick for cutler...problem is.. we can't.. cause the broncos won't do that.. they're going to want our first, second, third... get it.. and if we take another vet.. then what.. two seasons... AND WE'RE RIGHT BACK TO THE SAME THING.. we need to rebuild.. we have 2 potential QBs in the system right now.. (i have no faith in Ainge)... and if sanchez falls to us at 17.. we may have a 3rd.. but there is no way your going to pull a guy like cutler for just a 1st rounder.. never going to happen..
keep the pick and take the BPA. The jets right now are not real contenders for the superbowl but not in total gut job. We have 2 QBs that have shown potential. If neither of them work out as hoped for in the 2009-2010 season I draft another guy.
what if sanchez falls to 17.. im comletely against trading up for him... but if does fall to us.. do we take a chance with another QB now.. or do we draft a WR or DE instead.. truthfully I think that even at 17.. sanchez is too risky.. and might be useless if ratliff or clemens have the ability to be good QBs...
If Cutler was worth the #17 pick in the draft...HE WOULD ALREADY BE ON THE GOD DAMN DETROIT LIONS! you're an idiot if you think Cutler is within our reach...especially for that little of a price ....not to mention the Lions/Bucs and several other teams would be much more willing to outbid our franchise....hence why they were involved in the 3 way trade scenarios
If Sanchez falls to 17 take him because he is probally BPA unless you want to take a WR. I think a franchise QB shouldn't be passed on unless you feel you have one. Like the Colts would pass on Sanchez because they have Peyton Manning or Steelers and Big Ben etc.
It depends, you want a blend of both.. you want vet leadership and youth. But yes any 1st round pick for Cutler would be great in my book. I would even give up this years and next years 1st rounder for him.
I myself always say people put too much stock in draft piks but that doesn't mean giving up a #1 is smart. While I think getting a young solid player is good a proven vet has higher value, that said.... ...WTF has Cutler done too say he's worthy of a #1 pik? Cause he's young and has a strong arm? We just did the whole "strong arm" fiasco and noyhing came of it. Especially with the fact that Cutler has the same "gun slinger" mentality....
I would go best player available with the 1st round pick then grab a ton of depth on the d-line in the mid rounds. If for some odd reason the Broncos were willing to trade Cutler for our 1st rounder straight up i would take it in a heartbeat and never look back. At this point I wouldnt touch Sanchez because there are too many question marks about him right now. He only played 1 full college season so it would really be tougher to tell what kind of player you would get then if you were evaluting a qb with more college starting experience under his belt. At this point i feel Clemens would be a better option at qb then Sanchez because he actually has starting experience in the NFL and he really looked like he was starting to get better as the 2007 season progressed.
so called 'proven' qb's can be just as much of a gamble as 1st round picks like that proven guy we got last year you can either build your team through the draft like the patriots, or you can build your team through free agency and miss-guided trades like that jets have been doing ... one has been working and one has not been. free agents and trades should be the final puzzle pieces, not what you build your team around. if we're talking about cutler more specifically, he is a once in a life time situation, it's not very often a 25 year old franchise qb comes up on the trading block. But I doubt he gets traded, let alone for just a 1st rounder.
Let Rex run this Team for the next 10 plus years and here is why: The One consistant that the Steelers and Pats have is the same head coach and good ownership. Yes, this is NY, but I am soooooooo sick of seeing the Ups/downs of this team for the past 40 years. Case in point: Cower didnt win anything for his first years in Pittsburgh. It was by way of the draft, grooming young players and Defense FIRST that won them the SB! Yes, New England won it all with Brady, but they still had the same head coach and a Nasty defense. Ravens won it all with a Nasty defense. Lets add a great FA or two each year, build through the draft, keep Rex theu the good/bad years, but lets start to have some consistancy of being very good year to year vrs. the ups/downs we have all seen thru the past. I want the Jets to be respected, even if we dont win it all each year, for very least, lets get deep into the playoffs time and time again.
Successful teams build their franchise thru the draft....it's a proven fact. The teams that draft well in the lower rounds....are the most successful. Case in Point...Washington Redskins......they think the draft is a punchline....terrible team. Patriots, Colts, Steelers.................built most of their teams thru the draft.
Caliper?......seriously? If I was the Jets owner I'd learn English and how to make a thread title that expresses a complete thought so I wouldn't waste everyone's time. Then, I'd make the smartest move for my team and make sure that whoever I drafted/traded for knew how to use the words caliber and caliper.
I don't know if it has been said yet in the thread... Cutler would take MORE then one single first rounder. Try, this years first, next years first, and probably this years second, along with like a fourth rounder next year. Cutler is in the top 5 of trade value players in the league right now, (I'd put him behind Brady/Peyton/Brees for sure). Think of what you can get with all those picks. You could draft a Sanchez (who I think will turn out to be great), a great 3-4 D-End with next years first, a second this year could go towards NT depth or WR depth. Those picks go towards starters for your team for years to come, you can't trade them all away.
i have more confidence in the draft next year. sanchez and stafford would not be first rounders in next year's draft. 1. with next year's draft class looking so promising, i would trade my 1st rounder for one next year with a team lookin to fill holes this year. this allows us to see if clemens or ratliff have what we need. 2. i would make a run at a veteran reciever such as harrison or holt for a 2 - 3 yr. deal. if we can land a young and talented reciever already in the league for our 2nd round pick than this is an option. 3. if we go down the veteran reciever route, then i would still draft one in the second route. Kenny Britt? Heyward-Bey? 4. DT an DE are also draft needs for day 1 5. if clemens/ratliff experiment fails, two first rounders gives u a lot of chips next year with bradford, mccoy, and tebow available
If were in charge of the Jets, you would have had at least 5 HOF QBs to brag about in the last 40 years.. Sadly you have 1, the loneliest number.
I agree next year's draft looks to be outstanding, especially Round 1. I wouldn't go as far and say Stafford and Sanchez wouldn't be Rd 1 players, that's harsh. QB's that have the tools to play in the NFL, like Matt and Mark, will always be at a premium and be drafted high.