Yes. They draft well and are coached well. But they wouldn't be making the playoffs every year without Mannings and definitely wouldn't have won an championship. Just look at the recent teams that won the championships.
You know what I'm sick of them too. I also think the FO is doing a great job, at least for the past two years. But what I'm saying is, quarterback is the most important position and every year it?s the biggest question mark regarding the Jets. And what I hope for the Jets to do is to try to do something about that in this draft.
I totally agree. People want to win the day and be on the back page in March or April. Same thing when we drafted Brick, even though logic and history tells you you need a line before you get a big QB or RB, everyone was livid we didn't get Leinart, Cutler or Bush. Good thing we didn't. We have two QBs who have gone through the first few years of the process and a better crop to choose from in 2010. If we get a top WR in this year's draft, it either helps us be successful with the guys we have or sets the table for a QB next year. If the guys we have aren't good, we'll be in good position to get a franchise QB in the 2010 draft and will already have a top WR with a year under his belt. I want the back cover in December, January and early February, let the Yankees have it in April.
The problem with Sanchez is that he might be gone as early as the 2nd overall pick. And it's not worth trading our entire draft away for him.. But please.... Do NOT draft Josh Freeman...
Totally agree with this. I've been a Jets fan for a loooonnngggg time and I am at the point where it's time for the team to make a chnge - not in player personnel, but in their perception and phylosophy on how a winning team is comprised of. Lets' not jump to hasty assumptions - give the players a chance and go with your strengths - hope Ryan sticks to his game plan and continues to build a kick-butt D.
There are times where they have to make a less popular, flashy pick, which the Jets have. However, then there are times where we have to make a flashy pick and get a playmaker. I think this is the year the Jets will make a more popular pick. The back pages has nothing to do with it. The fact remains that we have no playmakers on offense and no franchise quarterback. Also the QBs next year aren't that good. Bradford is probably the top QB next year now but I don't like any other QBs after him. I don't like Tebow and I think McCoy is just decent.
I agree. I seriously hope the Jets don't take Freeman. If Sanchez is gone, then I hope for the Jets to get Boldin and/or Quinn.
It's fine to talk about finding a franchise QB, but to say that Quinn and/or Sanchez are franchise QBs is an absurd statement. First, if Quinn was so fantastic, why is Cleveland trading him? Are they the only team that doesn't see Quinn as a "fanchise"QB??? As for Sanchez, what makes him the real deal? His pre-draft work outs? We've seen what work outs mean (see VG). Don't people realize that first round QBs bust about 70% of the time. That means the Jets will give up multiple draft picks and throw away the chance to upgrade a roster than needs depth AND pay $30 million for a 30% chance of success. It sounds like bad bet to me. Plus, if Sanchex is all that, Seattle will take him at 4 (and I hope they do). We all want a franchise QB. The question is how do you acquire one. Sanchez is also going to be somewhat of a project. He came out early and only played one season of college ball. It will be 2-3 years before he is ready.
dabrowsk1 could be right. Most likely Clemens and Ratliff will not develop into top notch NFL QBs, but there is a chance one of them could. I think paying 1st round money on a QB is extremely risky this season- extremely risky. The Jets cannot afford to mess up two years in a row. It's too much of a cap hit to have two nothings eating up immense cap space. Well, maybe Gladys Gholston can turn it around and make something of her career, but I don't see it, never did. Getting back to these QB comparisons, a guy on this board last year called me out for daring to compare Matt Ryan to Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger. My reply was, "Yes, I am comparing Ryan to Manning and Roethlisberger." My point here is I don't think it's ludicrous for dabrowsk1 to write that Clemens and/or Ratliff have a chance to be special. He presented very valid points, in my opinion.
Right on man. I always wonder how these average-at-best QBs get tossed around as franchise QBs in the offseason. I guess people forget how they play during the season. My guess is that you'd get a completely different opinion on Quinn mid-season than you'd get in the offseason. Time makes you forget I guess.
I hated Quinn coming out of college and at the time thought the Dolphins taking Ginn instead of Quinn was a win. Was Quinn's game vs Denver in '08 fool's gold? He did look real good that night. He flashed some nice ability in the Buffalo game, too. I don't know if I should change my view on this Quinn guy now. I am starting to get the idea he could be a good NFL QB. I don't really know, though. I am undecided on him. Now, if I was in Mike Tannenbaum's position and I was completely undecided on a player I absolutely would not make a move for him. Therefore, if the Jets trade for Quinn I will assume that Tannenbaum is CERTAIN Quinn will be good OR that he (and Rex Ryan and Brian Schottenheimer, et al.) are desperate for a new QB and are just throwing stuff in the oven to see what bakes.
How do you figure that? I would say that statement is far from 'fact', we have Leon Washington and Dustin Keller, both play makers if you ask me, and we have a couple of potential play makers in Clowney and Smith if we can get them going. Also we don't know if we have a franchise QB, Clemens has only been given a chance behind a horrible O-line that would of made him adjust his comfort zone. Ratliff hasn't even been given a chance, a franchise QB does not just appear, just because they are not top 10 draft picks, doesn't mean they are not franchise QB's, just because they don't start straight away, does not mean they are not franchise QB's. Your statement is not fact at all, it is merely your own opinion.
You know what my opinion is... your mind set is why we have done nothing in the past decades, we have been second class, bottom feeders. Taking a chance on Clemens(again), Ratliff, Clowney, Smith, is all good. Or you can take a chance on a Sanchez. My opinion is we take our chance with Sanchez. Just because its different... something different from what we have done in the past that has been nothing but a failure. Each year, we say if "so and so quarterback" does bad we then draft a quarterback in the next draft. Well they have pushed that far enough and the Jets FO knows that.
Wake up, guys. The idea is: Draft a kid, then say he doesn't have experience next season, drafting another kid in the same position. That makes two unproven kids. See the pattern? Repeat ad nauseum.
