The Kellen Clemens Interception Count Down

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  1. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    They will probably get 1 drive each, 2 max.
     
  2. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    So obviously you missed my point.

    I don't care if Clemens can get it done or not. Rather, I know he won't. If the prognosis of this thread is saying anything, Clemens will probably never be ready for the starting job. I still say this year has to go to Clemens.
     
  3. GatorGar

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    So you're saying that Clemens has to be the sacrificial lamb?
     
  4. Gunther

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    It's about time you start using your head..........:metal:
     
  5. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Thank you.
     
  6. jacktucky

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    As a clear indication of what will happen on opening day, Sanchez starts in Madden 10 on Xbox360:wink:
     
  7. Royce Parker

    Royce Parker Well-Known Member

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    Seriously?
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Add to that, only 4 teams that have green in their uniform have won a Super Bowl since the Super Bowl's inception... I think we have the odds stacked against us. We need to trade Revis immediately and permanently adopt the Titans throwbacks if we ever want another Lombardi.
     
  9. kevmvp

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    The one thing I dont want to see is Sanchez given the starting job and then replaced by Clemens because he isnt playing well. Its obviously very important that the Jets dont botch this and they make the right decision when it comes to who should be starting the season at QB.
     
  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Everybody has Cornerbacks, only a few teams have green. :)

    Cornerbacks are just not that important. They sit on the edge of the defense and their entire job depends on whether or not everything else is getting done well. They're the classic "win-more" position, because if you're already winning a great cornerback can help you dominate but if you're not there's almost nothing they can do to change the dynamic. Safeties can come up in the middle of the field and make a huge play to swing the game, but if the other team is already winning a cornerback likely won't even see the ball come his way. The offense will be doing something safe with the ball instead.

    To give you an idea: there has been a Pro Bowl Safety on the winning Super Bowl team almost every season since 1994. In 2006 Bob Sanders didn't make the Pro Bowl when Indy won but he sandwiched with Pro Bowl appearances in 2005 and 2007. The Giants and Rams also didn't have Pro Bowl safeties the year they won. Polamalu, Sanders, Harrison, Lynch, Milloy, RWoodson, Atwater, Butler, DWoodson, McDonald AND Hanks in 94, that's a bunch of Pro Bowl safeties on teams that won. Now match that up against the cornerbacks and you see what is important and what is optional.

    Safety is an impact position in the NFL. Cornerback is just window dressing.
     
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  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Some of your posts just have to be subtle humor.
     
  12. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    If Sanchez starts the season, there's no way he's benched for poor play. They have to let him take his lumps
     
  13. Br4d

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    There's nothing humorous about overspending on a cornerback. It's what bad teams do without thinking about what wins games.
     
  14. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You do realize that safeties accumulate pro bowl stats by saving the asses of shitty cornerbacks, right?
     
  15. HardHitta

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    Its going to be fun watching Clemens compete with Sanchez tommorow night an throughout the pre-season.
     
  16. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    And by doing so they get to the winning side on the Super Bowl almost every year, whereas Pro Bowl cornerbacks with shitty safeties next to them don't.

    Doesn't that tell you which of the two positions is a key to being a champion and which is just window dressing?
     
  17. Royce Parker

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    Revis is window dressing?

    Right...
     
  18. Br4d

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    The Jets had the 29th ranked passing defense last year. They were great against the run, which meant everybody tried to pass on them and succeeded.

    Now if having a Pro Bowl CB meant bupkus in this equation it would not have been possible for the Jets to give up so many yards in the air last year with him on the field.

    I don't doubt that he is a great player, I just doubt that the position that he excels at means anything in the greater scheme of things.
     
  19. Royce Parker

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    I hear your point, CB may not be the linchpin position of the D, but that doesn't mean that having a top caliber CB isn't important. Our LB's couldn't cover for squat last season and Lowery struggled and got burned on lots of plays as a rookie - not to mention the lack of aggressive playcalling which gave opposing QBs all day to survey the field. Just because our D as a whole didn't do well against the pass does not detract from the value of Revis' excellent play.
     
  20. KSJets

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    Pro Bowl anything means bupkus. There are so many times that a player is voted in based on reputation rather than performance for that year. It shouldn't be used as a basis for any debate regarding which pro bowl position means more to a team.
     

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