Schotty: Sanchez's start mirrors those of Eli, Peyton and Carson 5:51 PM By Roderick Boone After a horrendous performance that left him with a glazed over look in his eyes, there are those who are ready to start picking Mark Sanchez apart with a fine-tuned comb, questioning if he can really get the job done. Huh? I heard someone mention on television earlier that some people he talked to around the league said Sanchez had small hand and that he didn't have good enough arm strength. Huh? Where were these people a week ago when Sanchez was coming off that great showing versus the Dolphins on "Monday Night Football?" Are these the same people who were praising Sanchez as the second coming as he was tearing things up during the first three weeks of the season, when he held his own against the Texans, Patriots and Titans for the most part? Anyone with half an eye for talent can see Sanchez has the goods. The guy is six games into his pro career and did you really expect him not to have some serious hiccups along the way? All right, so Sunday was more like a loud belch than a hiccup. But to act like all of the sudden he won't be able to get the job done is flat-out ludicrous. It's just silly. So just to see where he thought Sanchez was at the moment in his development, I asked Brian Schottenheimer in his availability with us today to give me his assesment. "We went back and looked," he said. "Somebody put the stats on my desk and it compared Mark after six games to Eli [Manning], Peyton [Manning], Carson [Palmer] and a couple of other guys. It's amazing, the numbers. They are not identical, but they are almost identical. They all have about half as many touchdowns as interceptions, their passer rating is about the same, in the 50s or 70s. Some have more yards than others. "I don?t think that this is something unusual. I think this is what happens. We were all excited with the way we started and the way he started. Has he taken a couple of steps back? Sure. When he took a couple of steps back against New Orleans, he stepped right up and played well enough for us to win on Monday night in Miami. I think he?ll do that again this week." Schottenheimer said they've taken some of the 'alerts' out of the game plan in order to help alleviate some of Sanchez's workload. The 'alerts' are sort of like audibles. A particular play is called and there's an 'alert' that accompanies it. If, for example, the original play call is a run left and the defense has a stacked look where the play is supposed to go, Sanchez can go with the 'alert,' which is essentially an audible that allows him to change things up and run it in a different direction. "The big thing we are trying to do is get back to what we do well," Schottenheimer said. "Oakland plays really one front, one coverage. It's in your face man-to-man, so you don't have to carry a huge package. You know where they are going to be. They are going to be up in your face playing you man-to-man, they are going to have eight guys down in the box trying to stop the run. We are really looking at us this week, the things that we do well and feature those. "Just allow him to go out there and play." *************************************************************** It's looking more like CB Lito Sheppard (quad) isn't going to play Sunday. That was the gist of the feeling Rex Ryan gave off yesterday and reiterated it again today when asked about the likely status of the starting right cornerback. "I think he's out," Ryan said, adding Sheppard's injury wasn't the reason he was beat on Lee Evans' 37-yard touchdown reception. "I?ll tell you this about Lito," Ryan said. "He tries everything he can above and beyond the normal thing to try and get back. He works his tail off on getting back. If somebody had a home remedy, he would try it. He wants to play. He feels like he?s letting this team down." WRs Jerricho Cotchery (hamstring) and Brad Smith (quad) were on the field again today, but technically neither practiced because they didn't participate in any of the team drills. Of the two, seems like Cotchery has the best shot at playing and it sounds as if he'll likely be listed as questionable. Smith might still be another week or so away. CB Donald Strickland (ankle) still seems to be a go, as does RT Damien Woody (knee, foot). *************************************************************** Life without NT Kris Jenkins begins this week and the Jets understand there's no replacing Big Jenk. Lineman Sione Pouha, Howard Green and Mike DeVito will each see increased roles and don't expect the opposition to shed any tears because they won't have to game plan to stop Big Jenk. "Nobody's feeling sorry for us," defensive coordinator Mike Pettine said. "We checked the mail and no sympathy cards arrived." *************************************************************** With the decision to have DB James Ihedigbo and LB Marques Murrell inactive this week and not make the trip to Oakland coming to light in the early afternoon yesterday, we didn't have the chance to ask Rex about it. So I asked if he could address the situation, and he said he's not going to stand for those kind of penalties. "Quite honestly, that's not the way we're going to play football," Ryan said. "We want to be the most physical team in the National Football League within the confinements of the rules. What they did was selfish I thought. You don't do those things on a football field. They got carried away. Both of them took a swing at a guy. The guy was swinging and was hitting our guys at the same time. But still there's no excuse to throw a punch at somebody. I'm just not going to have that on our team and that's it. "This is a tough lesson for our team, but it's one I think we have to do." *************************************************************** Penalties have been a serious issue that's cropping up for the Jets as of late. They were burned by the penalty bug in overtime against the Bills, committing six boneheaded mistakes with Ihedigbo's unsportsmanlike penalty and TE Ben Hartsock's holding call inside the red zone on the Jets' first drive of overtime at the forefront. "If I'm not mistaken, we're one of the most penalized teams in the league," Woody said. "A lot of them are pre-snap, so that's completely on each individual. So those are the things that we need to eliminate, especially offensive because a lot of times when you have pre-snap penalties, what it does is it really kills your drives. "One of the stats that we looking at now is, we're at the bottom of the league as far as three-and-outs and I think a lot of that is due to the penalty situation. It's something that we've talked about and it's definitely a big focal point for us to rectify that. That way, we stop shooting ourselves in the foot, then we are able to sustain drives and have more scoring opportunities."
Anyone with half an eye for talent can see Sanchez has the goods. The guy is six games into his pro career and did you really expect him not to have some serious hiccups along the way? All right, so Sunday was more like a loud belch than a hiccup. But to act like all of the sudden he won't be able to get the job done is flat-out ludicrous. A loud belch? LOL... more like he puked all over the windshield and dashboard. That doesn't mean he's a bust, now THAT assumption would be flat-out ludicrous. But, he isn't a sure fire franchise QB just yet either.
I wouldnt say that either. Having the goods and not being a bust are two totally different things. anybody who watched David Carr's first game against Dallas would have stated that he had the goods and would be a great NFL QB. well Carr became shell shocked after those first few years in Houston and never recovered. Carr became a bust for circumstances that had nothing to do with whether he had the goods or not. It's very clear to me as well that Sanchez has the "it" or the goods or whatever you want to call it. Doesn't mean he will end up an elite QB, but he certainly has what it takes to do so.
^ Carr had the goods but not the coaching or players around him. I also question his mental toughness. Forget the sacks, I mean how tough he is between the ears. sanchez seems like a tough QB. Diving at LBs knees is a good example. Just keep slinging it. He's the last good QB prospect to come out of USC since Palmer.
Sanchez had the biggest hands of any QB at the combine, So thats horseshit and we all can see the kid has good arm strength and can make all the throws. His only downfall might be that he's a pretty boy.
didn't Sanchez fuck up Griffin on the Titans by going head to head with him on the endzone and hurting him? fuck david carr. :beer:
The only thing the worries me is the idea the Sanchez' meltdown against the Bills was somehow weather related. If he can't play in cold miserable weather, he can't be a winner with the Jets.
What did I say? LOL, I didn't say anything. It was Herm-speak. I didn't say anything. Completely, totally ambiguous commentary. That just goes to show what an ignition point any comments on Sanchez are on this message board. Say one thing, someone gets their panties bunched. (not saying you did here, jetsrule). Say something else, and people assume one HATES Sanchez and revels, even celebrates a bad game. The Sanchez nut huggers are near fanatics. I think he has the tallent, the tools. He is VERY short on experience, and I'm certainly not sold on whether or not he has the mental toughness for the NFL. He is smart enough, on paper. That is yet to transfer to the field in this league. We don't know if he has what it takes to be a good NFL QB. We won't know for at LEAST a year. Right now, I agree with Pete Carrol. He wasn't ready. Can he survive the malestrom of last Sunday and rebound? I hope so, or it could be SOJ for the next 3 or 4 years. Having 50 years invested in being a Jets fan, I pray to God this kid works out.
I Should correct myself ND. I said pretty boy but what i really meant is that he has alot of emotion and that can bring him down, As for his toughness there's no question the kids tough as nails.
Both QB's have to play in cold, miserable weather. The Jets have not had a December QB probably since Joe Namath, and I'll bet if you look at his lines in the wind and wet there were some pretty bad ones there also. I actually think that Brett Favre and Tom Brady might be the only good December bad weather QB's in the NFL over the last decade or so. Most of the great QB's have played either in warm weather or in domes, and even Peyton Manning sucked playing out in weather in the playoffs until the Colts got good enough to generally host those games at the end.
that's a fair assessment - he can't be so emotional, because it does affect others around him, not to mention his play. minus the two INT ridden games, he's done well in the 2nd half. Those veins aren't ice cold, but they appear cool. he'll bounce back.
...you've crossed the line. David Carr is shell-shocked. He thinks the blitz is coming on every play... Dom Capers made a god awful decision to throw a rookie QB out there with shit receivers and a swiss cheese offensive line. Epic fail. The problem was never his mental toughness. Carr rarely QB slid - he was a flat out gamer that went all out, balls to the fucking wall on every play for his team. Houston wasn't built to win and they really still aren't.
I think Sanchez will be a great QB and all, but honestly you can compare those same numbers to the likes of Joey Harrington, and David Carr. Every rookie QB struggles, it's a matter of how well they bounce back. I think Sanchez will, but there's a chance he might not. Regardless, it's too quick to jump the gun and say he's the next Peyton Manning.
hahaha I only meant it in comparing Sanchez to Carr, and how no one wants that result. ok, then he's got the toughness. but it did go away due to 65 sacks in one year.... kinda feel sorry for him.
A rookie QB will struggle early, and this provides absolutely no information on how he will perform in the future? He could be the next Peyton Manning or the next Ryan Leaf? In other news, the Atlantic is a large body of water. That would be because he is Rex.
