I think it'd be about 7 million. That's a shitload of money, but who knows what's going to happen with a uncapped year.
Has he? It looks to me like the Jets make all their productive runs to the right behind Moore and Woody.
I agree with those who see Faneca as having a limited, perhaps quite limited, future with the Jets. He seemed and largely was a solid pickup, filling what at the time was far and away the biggest hole in the starting lineup on the whole team, offense and defense. As others have pointed out he also appears to have value in teaching Ferguson and Mangold, at least up to a point. But he's no longer solid in pass blocking, and his contract number is too high. Depth on the OL is an issue for this team, and I hate to say it but I am quite concerned that, while Mangold and Ferguson still have several years, hopefully, in them, the others, not just Faneca, will be declining while Sanchez is hopefully improving. OL joins DL as the area where the team needs to spend high draft picks in the next couple of drafts.
The funny part is if we do this, and Sanchez (or any QB) is on his back 5 times a game while the new guys are developing, we'll be bitching about our weak OL, and this team sux, and we're doomed at 4-12, etc etc etc. The majority of Jets fans - or any NY team fanbase for that matter - does not have the emotional or mental capacity to realize there may be a rebuilding or growth period. Everything for us in the NY metropolitain area is about "WIN! ME! NOW!" Just ask a Knick fan how much they like the idea of a "rebuilding" season and we are a week deep into NBA season... I'm not a Schotty supporter but you can't blame an O-Line breakdown on Schotty's choice of run vs pass. Can you do a better job than Schotty? I don't think so but that's just MHO
Faneca Mangold and DBrick have been a force to be reckoned with on the ground this year. That is a good reason why RUNNING THE FREAKING FOOTBALL is a good idea.
Uh, I think they have been "RUNNING THE FREAKIN BALL" this year. Thus the reason they have two games with over 300 yards rushing.
Question is... if you run 30 times a game and 25 of them it's on the right why even bother have a good run blocking left guard? Since we have one let's run 15 to the left and 15 to the right to keep the D off-balance! Faneca is uncuttable, his whole contract is guaranteed next year so we might as well keep him in a backup role (we'd give him the same amount of money) in 2011 however he becomes very cuttable! I disagree that only Mangold and Ferguson are the future... Moore is only 29 and still has at least 3/4 years in front of him. We just need a LG and maybe a RT (at the end of the day Woody isn't so bad is he? I wouldn't be totally against him playing next year) Faneca's contract: http://www.nyjetscap.com/alanfaneca.html born 1976 Woody's contract: http://www.nyjetscap.com/damienwoody.html born 1977
Faneca's assets: Huge portion of the running game. Faneca's drawbacks: We're about 2 steps away from needing to convert Rob Turner to FB/TE to protect Sanchez in the passing game. We need to have a prospect behind him for next season at the least. I would not be all-together against drafting a LG in the first round next year if it means we have a fall-back plan in case Faneca falls back and crushes us.
Faneca has never been a good pass blocking guard. Anyone who thought that he would be is due a big disapointment and did really not know mcuh about him comming in. It was not a mess made by Mike T. It was an immidate fix to an absolute disaster that was the O-line in 2007 season. It was the best option at the time. You can be all happpy and negative with your revisionist history, but your bending the facts to post more bullshit as usual. Your almost as bad as the average Dolphins troll around here.
You can't replace Faneca this season. What's done is done. That being said the biggest benefit to the Jets if next year is uncapped would be having Braylon and Leon as only restricted free agents, and the ability to cut Faneca and Gholston without getting our cap destroyed by penalties.
faneca seemed to be getting beat a lot on sunday. i think he is our worst lineman right now. time to get some replacements in the draft.
1) that's not true, that would be an asset if we actually ran behind him... and that doesn't happen nearly as often as it would be needed to justify his horrible pass protection. 2) We have a prospect, it's in your signature (Slauson) we have never seen this guy play but if he got drafted (and is listed specifically as Faneca's backup) let's give him a chance before drafting another G. The biggest thing Faneca has done is show Mangold, Ferguson and Moore how a star OL handles himself on and off the pitch... and also act as a mentor for our young OL backups. There was an article reported by Kelly in which all the OL said how much they benefitted from Faneca's senior presence. But that's not enough to keep him in the starting line anymore (IMO). PS I agree he has been a factor in the running game but we haven't used him as much as we could have.
Backside blocking, pulling, trapping, there's more to playing guard than just man-blocking on a dive play. Faneca does a lot more in the run than you've outlined here.
Good point. The fact is...this is a top 5 run blocking OL and frankly a top 10 Pass protecting untit(w/ possibly the best pass protector in the NFL in Brick). Every OL is going to have a weak link....all O-linemen have weaknesses. Faneca is extremely valuable as an experienced veteran and he is still an elite level run blocker. His protection leaves alot to be desired, but when your OL for the most part is at an elite level..I don't think you mess w/ that cohesion. I'm all for developing a replacement behind him..and if he gets beat in TC next year so be it...but i dont think he's a liability to the point of screwing up a very good thing.
All this talk about protection coming from the o-line. Nick Mangold has been great and thus deserves a fitting nickname. Something like Trojan Man, providing the ultimate protection. maybe Magnum XL so it doesn't interfere with his Ohio State background.
