NEW YORK JETS -- Kellen Clemens, QB; Drew Coleman, CB; Braylon Edwards, WR; Howard Green, DT; Wayne Hunter, T; Brad Smith, WR; Eric Smith, S; Leon Washington, RB. Braylon and Leon will definitely get a first round tender IMO ($2.02 for first for Leon and $2.52m for a first and a third for Braylon). Lets hope we can lock both of them up (or atleast Braylon) into long term contracts by next season. Leon will not get a new deal next yr IMO. He would be offered a first round tender at most. Brad Smith and Eric Smith should be given a low round tender aswell (900k for their original draft status). I like Hunter and Green aswell and I think we just might keep both of them. KC is an easy one, offer him 900k and no one will give you a second round pick for him. U get a backup QB for pretty much a vets minimum, or close to it. Now if u want to bring in a veteran backup, thats a different story.
A few things... I don't think this team brings back Kellen Clemens. He just doesn't fit here anymore. We need to bring in a veteran with a lot of years in the league. Brad Smith should be locked up long term. He's too valuable as a special teamer to get rid of. Eric Smith can be replaced, although Ryan seems to like him. If this team drafts a safety, I think Digbo will make the roster over Smith. I don't see Leon Washington getting a first round tender. Someone will try to sign him away from us and Tannenbaum will more than likely okay the deal and take the draft picks. It'll be a tough loss for most fans, but he's a replaceable player. He's a great return man, but doesn't fit in to the "Ground and Pound" style we're going to have. Braylon Edwards has to be given the highest tender. Tannenbaum would look like a complete idiot if he traded for Edwards and didn't retain him.
^yup, agreed on every point. Leon is replaceable, especially after his recent injury. We cant sign Leon to a 1st and a 3rd round tender. No one will take him away at that compensation. A 1st round compensation for Leon is ideal IMO. You get a chance to sign a great change of pace RB for $2mil while risking getting a first round pick. I wouldn't mind at all. I also tend to like Brad Smith. He is pretty explosive and he proved it last wk. He barely gets enough touches to show something but he has done decent this year with his trick plays. As a special teamer, he has good speed that can be used on both sides of the ball, coverage and return. I don't like the idea of risking Cotchery at PR. Ryan likes Eric and Im pretty sure Eric will retain his backup safety spot. He isn't that bad IMO to hold the fort incase someone goes down. Using him as a hybrid safety/LB gives us better coverage on the TEs and we seem to have a lot of trouble covering TEs.
gotta keep edwards and B Smith everyone else is replaceable. I love leon and would love to keep him but we could replace him.
Completely disagree about Leon!! He has been missed severely on offense, and not many backs are as versatile as him. We'd have a easier time replacing most of our offensive players then we would of Leon.
If I were the Jets and there is no agreement, I'd sign Leon and Braylon to 1st and 3rd tenders. There's no salary cap! No consequences other than a little money. I would use the leverage to work out a deal with the Panthers for Peppers.
They only reason I would offer Leon a 1st round tender is to see if there are any takers. You will never get more than a 1st round tender for a backup RB and an ex-special team pro bowler. As much as I like Leon, I would take a first rounder for a RB who would be 28 starting next season. He would demand a huge contract when he is 29 and may just lose him for that matter and get nothing out of him unless u franchise n trade him. Thats just my opinion though.
this team has alot of needs and if someone wants to send us a 1st rounder for leon they can be my guest
He could. Nothing is a sure thing now... If this team, that has to rebuild both of its lines, can get an extra first round pick for a change-of-pace back/return specialist, then I'd be all for it.
Yes, he can be replaced. It's not that he's not being used enough, it's that he doesn't fit into this offense anymore. The team needs powerful, ball control running backs...not small, quick backs. Prospects like Ole Miss' Dexter McCluster and West Virginia's Noel Devine are similar players. What's funny is that Mike Tannenbaum tried to trade back into the first round to get Percy Harvin, but failed...so if Clemson's CJ Spiller is available in the late teens, then we could see a much dreaded trade up.
Edwards is a restricted free agent. So he'll be here for at least one more year. If Tannenbaum let him leave after half a season, he'd be the biggest joke of a GM in the NFL...besides Al Davis. Unless the Jets draft a receiver high in 2010's draft, Edwards will be locked up long term.
interesting thought isnt it? People have been pointing out that Spiller is a superstar in the making. Leon suddenly goes from our most explosive to our biggest question mark. Why not move our biggest question mark in an effort to get one of the 3-4 can't miss prospects of this upcoming draft? Makes sense to me... If somebody gives us a # 1 for leon, it becomes a no brainer, especially if that #1 is in the low teens. A more interesting question to me is are you still interested in moving rhodes? After the way Kerry has turned it up in recent weeks and appears to have reignited his passion for football do you risk him relapsing in the future and move him? Or do you keep him believing he is fully reformed?
I know it's not the most rational way of thinking about this, but picturing the possibility of Beli-cheat signing away Leon for one of the many first round picks he always seems able to stockpile, and having him come back to kill us twice a year on KR's and explosive plays from scrimmage would make me sick.
Kerry Rhodes has really upped his value over the last few weeks. Moving him really depends on how the other players feel about it - if it's going to cause an uproar in the locker room, then he should stay...but from those anonymous comments a while back, it seems to me like Rhodes isn't a good teammate. I wouldn't ship him out for anything less than a 3rd rounder. Honestly, I'd rather have a less athletic, low money role player at safety. We need someone that can play physical and Rhodes isn't that type of player for some reason.
How are you guts talking about replacing a proven spark plug like leon with a draft pick. I think missing him has hurt our O even worse than Shittinheimer's total lack of football IQ. Top priority sign leon and BE. Also, I love B Smith and think he's undervalued by the rest of the league. We shouldn't have a hard time keeping him.
Good point, from a run support stand point, I would much rather have a sure tackler (not rhodes) but from a coverage standpoint, Rhodes is easily in the top 3 cover guys we have (Revis................................... Leonhard/Rhodes are pretty close in my eyes) So if someone offers us a second rounder straight up for rhodes do you do it? Better yet, if someone offers you a first for Rhodes and Leon would you do it? Would you take it and run? Would you ask for more but eventually give in? Or do you walk away from the table laughing thinking the other guy is an idiot who isnt even close to value for those guys?
first, leon's way too much of a risk for anyone to give up more than a 3rd round pick for him, so stop the talk about any team ponying up. the best we can hope for is a trade with a team that wants to get rid of somebody. Peppers is the big fish out there and I would love to see him be an OLB in our defense. can you imagine a 46 look with Scott, Harris, Pace and Peppers? wow.