I envision Tannenbaum signing...

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  1. JETlife14

    JETlife14 New Member

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    Braylon or Meachem
     
  2. Braylon4ever

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    ^ Why not both?


    Braylon will come cheap and Meachum could be signed to reasonable money...
     
  3. Zach

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    Braylon, Holmes AND Meachum? Don't forget Kerley under the wing and Keller at TE. So Jets are going Air Erhardt now? That's gotta be real fun. Sanchez will have field day each week throwing 3 picks a game.
     
  4. DemoIsland

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    Agreed. Would also make the Sparano hiring senseless, would have brought in Haley if that were going to be the case.
     
  5. Jets n Boys

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    Yes I do. We have a long list of needs and incase you missed, we are back to the salary cap era. We can not afford a top flight WR in his prime who will be asking for roughly $10mil a season contract when we only have about $15mil in cap space and have tons of players that need resigning. Bryan Thomas, Pouha, Leonhard, LT, Turner, Burress, Folk, Pool, Strickland...These are all UFAs and several are starters, not to mention Jamaal Westerman and Aaron Maybin as RFA. They either need to be resigned, or replaced. I see at least three starters there. We also need about $4-5 mil to sing draft picks. Unless Tanny continues to push money back towards the future, I don't see us signing any top FAs this year.
     
  6. Rawrk

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    if the jets decided they really needed a guy like vjax.. i have no doubt that tanny would be able to make 10 million a year magically appear.
     
  7. Big Blocker

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    Good post except I think the ordering and syntax make it unclear whether you are saying the UFA'a, ALL UFA'S?, need to be resigned.

    I certainly think Pouha and Turner should be resigned, but that's about it for UFA's this year.

    But your larger point is dead on. The lack of cash available adds to the thinking that relative bargain and good fit like Edwards can be a better option than some others for #2 wr.
     
  8. Mantana Soss

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    Well, things aren't THAT tight.

    Only a couple of those names you mentioned will be back, and only Pouha will be pricey. If Pool is back, he comes back cheaper than Eric Smith, and I expect his 2M to be cut off the books.

    The rookie compensation pool adds 4-5M towards those contracts. Probably only need a couple mil more than that to get rookies done.

    With 8+M getting pushed to 2012, the Jets total cap will be somewhere in the range of 130-133M.

    NYJetscap's numbers just seem too high to me. We spent roughly 112M last season. We have a significant number of FAs coming off the books, including 5M for Plax, and according to that site, at this second we sit at 126.6M. Mark's cap numbers were astronomical both seasons, so I don't think it's that. I guess we had that many backloaded deals.

    Nonetheless, I see Sanchez's cap number (14M) getting chopped down a few mil, we don't really have leverage on any of the other big contracts.
     
  9. fozzi58

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    Rob Turner? Yes - I think he should definitely come back if he's healthy. It would be an easy way to shore up the OLine.
     
  10. Jets n Boys

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    Like I said, we either need to sign those UFAs, or we need to replace them with someone off the free agency/draft.

    We can push about $3mil of Marks salary to 2013 with a simple restructure by coverting $6mil on his base to a bonus. But we are currently sitting on about $125mil as is (according to nyjetscap.com). That will leave us the same $8mil we saved from last year. Our top 10 players account for over $90 mils. With a couple more restructures along with Mark, we can get cap space of around $15mil.

    Out of that, we have to spend on the rookies, Pouha, Pool or Leonhard, Folk, and probably two out of Bryan Thomas, Jamaal Westerman and Aaron Maybin. Then whatever is left over, you sign our 2nd WR. I wouldn't be surprised if we went after a cheaper WR this yr such as Braylon, or even Moss along with drafting a WR. We don't have a lot of room to play with and even the restructures won't help much. We just need to stay away from big signings this yr and wait till Pace and Scott free up $14-15mil next year. This is the year we really need to get a few draft picks to produce.
     
  11. Jets n Boys

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    Yeah, Rob Turner definitely needs to be resigned. He can be an excellent backup to Mangold, along with filling in for any other injury to the OL as he can play other positions too. I hope DuCasse starts playing good, but the fact we kept Hunter suggests Ducasse may not be ready any time soon.
     
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    Tanny could decide to continue that trend of back loading contracts, bring in basically whoever he wants and backload contracts to the 2014 season when the TV money is supposed to kick in. I don't like that idea, but he could do it and put off the ineviteable cap hurt.
     
  13. Braylon4ever

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    Okay...I get your point. :smile:
     
  14. Endlessly Counting

    Endlessly Counting Well-Known Member

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    This board seems to take it as a given that Braylon is coming back, but we get no info on this from the insiders (e.g.Cimini)
     
  15. joeklecko

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    Unless you're being sarcastic, I'm sorry but that's just dumb. Have you looked at the cap? At the salary of Jets' players? One of the reasons the Jets are tight up against the cap now is Tanny's maneuvering to get money to sign Nnamdi last year. In so doing, he guaranteed both Scott's and Holmes' salaries, making it impossible for the Jets to cut either of them. There's really no place else to get that kind of money ($10 million).
     
  16. joeklecko

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    That's not necessarily true. He was a decent, maybe pretty good backup in a zone blocking scheme. The Jets have switched to a man blocking scheme, and Turner really isn't big or strong enough to hold his own or excel in that kind of scheme.
     
  17. joeklecko

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    It IS that tight.

    After the beating that Sanchez took in the media and the way the FO talked about bringing in a QB to "push him" do you really think the smart thing to do is to ask him to take a pay cut or restructure? Do you think he'd even do it? Besides, if he proves not to be "their QB" after 2012, then they'd be in a situation like they are now unable to cut Scott or Holmes, or Pace.

    I get so tired of these ignorant posts where Tanny can just do anything with the cap and the Jets should go out and sign all these big name FAs. That is NOT the way to build a franchise. This isn't Madden or fantasy land.
     
  18. Rawrk

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    tanny's ONLY strength as a gm is that he's a cap wizard.

    last year, people were saying that we had no shot at nnamdi because of cap space. then tanny made it possible.

    whether or not it is a good idea.. whether or not his methods prove to be helpful or destructive in the future.. if the jets think they were a 10 million dollar player away from winning a super bowl, i am 100% confident in our gm that the 10 million dollars would appear within days.

    so yeah, i look at the cap numbers for a general feel for where we're at. but i have a hard time believing that tannenbaum looks at the numbers and sees the same things we're seeing.

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  19. Mantana Soss

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    Sanchez's contract gets reworked pretty much annually. That's why we owe him so much money now!

    And the Jets have been playing fantasy land / Madden annually since 2008's Favre-Faneca-Woody-Jenkins outburst. (2009: Scott, Leonhard, Edwards and Sheppard via trade, 2010: LT, Pool, Taylor, Brunell, trades for Holmes and Cromartie, huge extensions for Mangold, Brick, and Revis, 2011 was a puzzlepiece year [Burress, Mason, Strickland, Maybin, re-up Hunter, etc] because 2010 was so damn expensive)

    You mean Scott and Pace. Holmes we actually could have walked away from last month with very little cap damage, but chose to keep him.
     
  20. Big Blocker

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    Ftr I don't take it as a given that the FO brings Edwards back. Not at all. I personally think it would be a good move, given his past performance with Sanchez, his probable low cost compared to some other WR options, and the defnite need to fill the #2 WR position. It makes sense, but...

    Tanny would have to be a big boy and admit the Jets should have found a way to keep Edwards last off season. That is hardly a given, imo.

    In any event Edwards would have to show he's in good condition. I don't know that's a given,either.
     

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