Best candidates to step up/break out next year ?

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  1. Nilton

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    A healthy Slauson. and Kerley.
     
  2. Big Blocker

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    They might not be done freeing up cap space, of course. But cap space is not the only consideration on how much to pay Pouha. I like the guy, but you get to numbers above 6mil and I start getting very queasy.
     
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    Surprised no one mentioned Mauga the ILB. He made some plays in the pre-season and had that nice play in Jacksonville, granted he did suck against Miami @ home on that goal line play.

    I think he could get more reps this season if he can prove to be good in coverage. If he does he'll take more reps from Scott on 3rd down

    But then that would eliminate our "block destroyer"
     
  4. joeklecko

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    Even at $5 million, I'd have to think long and hard about re-signing a 33 year-old player. That's a lot of bread.

    The thing is, I don't think they have many other possibilities to free up money. Mangold and Revis are really the only two players where that might be a possibility. You don't mess with your starting QB but Sanchez might me agreeable to a salary cut or restructure, but it would probably mean that he would be here at least another year or two, and many wouldn't want that. About the only other ways they could get big chunks of money is either to cut E. Smith or cut M. Devito, and while many would like the former, you and I wouldn't. I don't think anyone would like the latter, nor would it happen.
     
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    Matt Mulligan - Mr. Potato head
     
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    Who the hell was excited about PS player Eron Riley?

    Did you graduate at the Al Davis school of drafting?
     
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    http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=68467

    He was highly touted as an up and comer off the Broncos practice squad. Many liked him because of his size and speed. Many around here were and still are excited about his potential.
     
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  8. KWJetsFan

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    Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, the guy has been in the league since '09, is on his 4th NFL team, has never had a significant injury, but has never played an NFL down.

    Why would anyone be excited about that? He's a PS player at best.
     
  9. joeklecko

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    I love how some posters know absolutely nothing about a player, yet feel imminently qualified to pronounce whether he has any potential whatsoever and what kind of player he will be. Amazing.
     
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    So you think the past 3 NFL teams that gave up on him, plus the Jets, who didn't play him at all were wrong?
     
  11. joeklecko

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    All I'm gonna say is do some research on the kid. Look at the facts and the circumstances, i.e., which teams he was with, for how long, what they had at the WR position already. The Jets obviously thought enough about him to sign him off of the Broncos PS.

    Check out the following link. It is an article about Riley and has some clips.

    http://www.ganggreennation.com/2012/2/21/2814265/diamonds-in-the-rough-eron-riley
     
  12. KWJetsFan

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    You just cited ganggreen nation as a source.

    Seriously.
     
  13. joeklecko

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    That has nothing to do with whether Riley is a real prospect or not, but if you don't like that site then do research elsewhere. There is nothing wrong with that site. I've seen just as many stupid posts here as I have there, and a whole lot more rude, boorish, jackass type attitudes and behaviors here in one day than I've ever seen ther.

    Do what you want, but it's totally stupid to make a definitive statement about whether a player is only a PS player or can make it in the NFL when you know nothing about the kid and have never seen him play.

    I saw Riley play several times while he was in college. He can play.
     
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    gangreennation has recently put up such brilliant articles as "Nick Mangold: Stay or Go?"

    Yeah, that's not the bastion of journalism you want to refer to. Yes, I've researched Riley on "reputable" sights and see no signs whatsoever that he can contribute in any way, shape or form. Regardless of most situations, if a guy can play and contribute, he gets on the field. He isn't with 4 teams in his first 3 years without seeing the field, unless he just isn't that good.

    I'm glad you've seen him play, but I'm thinking the Ravens, Panthers, Broncos, and Jets could possibly have him scouted better than you.
     
  15. CervezaVerde

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    My list for guys I hope make improvements noticeably from last year...
    1a) Cumberland
    1b) Greene
    2a) McKnight
    2b) Sanchez
    3) Kerley
    4) Wilkerson
    5) Connor
    6) Wilson
    7) Ellis
    8) Cro

    Obviously Cumberland could just stay healthy and improve over last year but I hope to see some real production. I hope Greene breaks out wild as well. Improved production given the chance from McKnight and greater consistency from Sanchez. Kerley, just get better, and the same for Wilkerson and Connor. Ellis, just play some games and show a spark. Finally, Cro, get the head right early and show everyone he is second best corner on his team, er uh, in the league.
     
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    I'm one of the biggest supporters of Mark Sanchez out there, but he has to be number one on my list. We've all seen flashes of how good he can be, but the consistency needs to stick. If he can take it to that next level and with the defense we have, there is no reason why we can't be in the running next year.
     
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    If Matt Mulligan is still on the Jets and has a breakout year, I'm leaving flaming shit on Tanny's doorstep and ringing the bell. BM style.
     
  18. Big Blocker

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    On one hand, doing the math, the parameters on moves that need being made to fill positions seem as we both agree to require at least two of them be filled in FA, otherwise the Jets will run out of high picks during hte draft with which to obtain players to fill starting and other critical positions. Preferably three.

    But on the other hand the type of players needed do not have to be top tier, and expensive.

    I don't mean to underestimate the challenge, and it may prove impractical to expect the Jet FO will meet it. But neither do I necessarily think that signing Pouha will make that job impossible, unless of course the number gets too high.

    Despite his shortcomings, he is an above average nose tackle, and his is a key position in the D. You can't throw just anyone in there and expect adequate performance. No one else currently on the roster looks capable of even being adequate as of Opening Day.

    If some other team is willing to overpay Pouha and he leaves, sure the Jets can probably find some one else to sign and who hopefully will be adequate. But it will take some shuffling, at the least, and they just might not end up with an adequate NT.
     
  19. joeklecko

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    The title is bad. I told the author as much. He doesn't mean it literally. It's just a way of discussing the various players and their value to the team and giving the posters something to talk about. You really ought to use your brain more. Try reading and getting to know people and not dismissing them out of hand from a small sample of their work.

    I can tell you that I started posting here and there a year ago, and I spend the majority of my time there. Why? Because that site doesn't allow the rudeness, arrogance, insults and hostility that this site did. Kudos to this site for cleaning things up and banning people. Also, I've seen just as many what I thought to be stupid thread titles and opinions here as I have there. There are smart posters and not so smart posters on any football site you go to. There are all different levels of knowledge and experience both in terms of the Jets and of football itself.

    He may not develop, but lots of players come into the NFL with a ton of talent and don't make it for one reason or the other. I'm not saying he will make it, but he deserves a shot through TC with the talent level he's got. He's got great hands, run after catch ability is 6'3" and fast. If you couldn't see that in the clips, then you have no idea what you're looking at and should take up another sport. If you haven't noticed, sometimes it takes a player a few years to develop. The level of competition at Duke wasn't that high, plus the players have to be very smart. They've had a lot of players that are just as physically talented as any as you'd find at Alabama or elsewhere, but they're often lacking in the aggressiveness temperament/nature that those other players have.

    Not all players click with their position coaches or coordinators. There have been a lot of players who didn't make it with the team that drafted them, they moved on to another team and became solid players if not stars. I don't know the circumstances in each of the situations where Riley was. None of us do. But it's totally stupid to pronounce with the certainty that you did that he's only a PS player when you know nothing about him or the situations he was in with those teams.

    It's obvious that you're one of those posters who thinks he knows everything and takes a condescening approach with others. Maybe you ought to think about joining those asswipes who left this site and in the process made this site infinitely better.
     
  20. Endlessly Counting

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    Wasn't Riley cut
     

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