It's so crazy that the jets who were completely void of any offense in 2012, might have a chance at getting the best OC available and a guy some call one of the best in the NFL (Norv Turner) and the fans still find reason to complain! Amazing. I couldnt agree more. This would be perfect for Norv, it's no risk all reward. Offense does bad - everyone knew our offense was already bad Offense does good - he gets all the praise Rex Ryan on the hot seat - possible HC job could come available There's no scenario where Norv come out looking bad IMO.
Norv Turner is the only person who might be able to fix Mark Sanchez, We need to make this a top priority and bring him in here before he goes elsewhere. The reason Sparano is still here is so the new GM can fire him since he won't be able to fire Rex they are gonna try to make the new gm feel like he has some power by firing Sparano himself. Thats the only reason he is still here
yes, solely as an OC since 1993 when he had a loaded team with a HOF QB, RB WR a probowl TE and FB and perhaps the greatest Oline in the history of the game, he has been 2001: 14th scoring 11th yards 2002: 12th scoring 15th yards 2003: 17th scoring 24th yards 2006: 24th scoring 26th yards sounds great!
Some of you guys need to lay off the grass. Sanchez is untradeable. His contract sucks and so does he. Once you understand that, then you will stop posting the crap you read on tweets.
from wikipedia: From my own readings... The Cowboys offense was going no where before Norv got to Dallas. The Cowboys were going to get rid of Michael Irvin (one of the 3 HOF'ers you mentioned) and Norv said no way and was able to find the right way to use Irvin who was great at using his body to shield defenders away from the ball. He was able to get the most out of Aikman who really struggled his first two seasons. He turned Jay Novacek (who was let go by the Cardinals) into a lethal weapon.
why do you think this... outside of aikman who already had high expectations and was supposed to be a great player who has he helped? His QBs he has coached are as follows Heath Shuler Gus Frerotte Trent Green Brad Johnson Doug Flutie Jay Fiedler Kerry Collins Alex Smith Philip Rivers I didnt see him doing anything special with any of these guys.
weird he couldnt do the same thing with the dolphins then. word was the cowboys made a killing on the herschel walker trade...now that walker trade meant next to nothing because all those players were terrible until norv walked in the door...riiiight.
Word was the Cowboys made a killing on the Herschel Walker trade? Word was? The fact is that they made a killing on the trade. but what does that have to do with Norv's impact on the Cowboys offense? The offense was under acheiving big time before Norv got there. Look at Irvin (who the Cowboys were going to trade away before Norv told them not to). 1988 - avg 2.3 rec/gm 46.7 yds/gm 1989 - avg 4.3 rec/gm 63 yds/gm 1990 - avg 1.6 rec/gm 33.4 yds/gm Norv shows up and: 1991 - avg 5.8 rec/gm 95.2 yds/gm How about Emmitt? 1990 - avg 58.6 yds/gm 3.9 yds/carry Norv shows up and: 1991 - avg 97.7 yds/gm 4.3 yds/carry What about Troy? 1989 - avg 159 yds/gm 5.97 yds/att 9 TDs / 18 INTs 1990 - avg 172 yds/gm 6.46 yds/att 11 TDs / 18 INTs Norv shows up and: 1991 - avg 230 yds/gm 7.59 yds/att 11 TDs / 10 INTs When Aikman went down w/ an injury they inserted Steve Beurlein and went 4-0. How did Beurlein do? 1991 - avg 227 yds/gm 6.6 yds/att 5 TDs / 2 INTs and started the first playoff game against the Bears which the Cowboys won.
I don't know Murrell, I think the underachieving before Norval got there had more to do with the fact that they were still really young players and that he got there just in time when they figured out the game. 88 - Irvin didn't have Aikman or Emmitt 89 - Aikman was a rookie 90 - Smith was a rookie They were all great players and it makes sense that it came together in 91 when they all finally got some experience under their belts. The fact that they came on strong to end the year in 1990 can attest to that. I'm not saying Norval hurt them or anything, just that he's probably a little overrated for that and that it was more of a right place - right time thing. I'm also not encouraged by what he's done in the years since then. In Miami, Washington, San Fran, SD, etc... And that the league has changed dramatically in the last 20 years, I don't think he can hang his hat on that Cowboy team forever.. Hiring Norval doesn't excite me, It's like hiring another re-tread like Sparano to run the show on offense. The league is changing offensively big time. If the Jets are serious about keeping Rex, they should look towards getting a young,innovative mind on offense. Rex has a bright innovative defensive mind, pairing him up with a similar offensive mind could work. Norv Turner would be the safe hire. He'd probably get this offense to not be so much of a joke but he's got a low ceiling and we already know what he brings. Rex should take a risk and reach higher, take a chance on a young and up-in-comer in my opinion...
put Dallas aside, he did a good job w/ little talent in the other stops. He was still upper half of the league on O despite not having talent. Norv is far from a great OC but he's a good one and a significant upgrade to what we have now.
Jake Steinberg @Steiny31 Source: Norv has no interest in coming to NY. But that won't stop Rex from pursuing him. Rex will go (and has begun to go) all out for him.
Norv had a huge impact on the Dallas offense. The offense was terrible prior to him getting there. I don't think it was just right place right time. He really got the offense going in the right direction after David Shula did nothing.
yes this exactly. He had Tomlinson in 2001. He rushed for 3.6 yards per carry...but the next 2 years he improved...how? well, maybe because he wasnt a rookie anymore. norv did fine in dallas because he had very good players. His other stops as an OC he didnt do as well because the players were worse. Norv has gotten more mileage for being at the right place at the right time more than any other person in NFL history.
you also know that Norv was not only the HC but the OC in San Diego this year. He called the plays. They finished 31st in offense. This is with a much better talent pool than the Jets had this year. Maybe without having to think about clock management he will do better, but norv is not the guy you want to run this offense at this stage. He runs a vertical passing game. He is a disciple of Air Coryell. You cant have Sanchez as your QB and no name WRs for that offense. It wont work.
