That is all true, and regarding the bolded part, the other way search firms, as a subset of the larger function of an outside consultant, can be used is to validate a decision made by management. Take the scenario where an inside guy like Cohen ends up being hired. I am not suggesting that Woody necessarily went into the process committed to do that. But if it ends up that way, the search firm can provide a certain amount of cover, at least for those so inclined to accept the end result as the result of a legitimate, and not flawed, process.
Serach firms do not make the final decision. All they do is search the pool for the best candidates & may or may not assist in the interview/hiring process. They provide some feedback on candidates but only based on the position's specific need & the potential fit. Organization has all the authority
What do you think the pool of potential NFL GM's is? Do you really think Korn Ferry is bringing in an out of the box candidate for GM? This isn't Coke who has thousands of high paid executives all over the world. This is a guy one of maybe 40 people in the world who can run your football operations. If Woody hires someone totally out of the box that Korn Ferry brings in let me know. If they do I will forever think of them as brilliant. Korn Ferry isn't making the decision and they aren't going to bring one candidate to the interview process that Rex and Woody aren't fimiliar with.
Kurt, I am aware of that. I was merely saying that search firms are a kind of consultant, and of course consultants in general do not have the final decision, but only make recommendations. Consultants are often used, both for outside the firm, for pr purposes, and inside as well, to provide an imprimatur of legitimacy to the decision that is ultimately made by management. All management needs to do is assure that the "recommendation" is in keeping with where they want to go.
Ok...so you wouldn't wanna interview a portiomn of thoise 40 people to make sure it's a good fit? Not sure I understand your point. Woody is NOT a football guy. If that's your gripe than that's a debate for another day. True incompetence would be Woody going out and only interviewing the candidates that he knows..which would largely be based on on Golf outings & nightlife. He isn't a football guy.It's that simple. Rather than guessing at who is the best candidate..he's letting the professionals streamline the pool for him. How is this is any way a negative?
In many casses they are brought in to justify not promoting from within. They serve a political purpose in organizations that's not related to the quality of personal at all. They also can provide cover in raiding competitors.
see thats the problem. they cleaned house but they really didnt. they got rid of everyone and made the whole house shiny clean... but they left a steaming pile of doo doo in the middle of the kitchen. you either do it or you dont. to have 8 coaches and a gm leave but the head coach stay just doesnt make any sense to me. if you are going to start over then start the fuck over. if you want backpages of the daily news then well i guess do what woody is doing.
If Woody is incompetent and is going to make the decision and has signed on to the HC we are pretty much screwed. Woody has owned the Jets for well over a decade. This is a billion dollar niche business. If he doesn't have a complete file on everyone of his competitors and potential high level employees he isn't doing his job. If he wants to go out of his profession to hire I can see it. If he is providing cover for himself I can see it. I don't see it as anything more then that.
i just dont see how this all in mentality is necessary or makes sense. why is it you either fire rex or you don't clean house? thats just not true nor is it necessary. woody shares a responsibility for the backpages but the media are the ones who are really running things...they decide who and what goes on said backpage...they opt to talk about the jets instead of the giants when they won the superbowl....they opt to show rex's tattoo like they are a cheap tabloid...they opt to do ALL of these things.
I really don't understand the whole "search firm" thing in the context of an NFL hire. Makes no sense to me. It's such a closed community, so statistically measured and so results-oriented, I just don't see how you get much value from an outside consultant. It also seems to me that this should be much easier that the Jets (or any other NFL team) makes it, because you should be able to think WAY outside the box and theoretically throw money around wildly without the salary limitation that you have on players. And, again, in theory, the best candidate earns his pay. So, if you're going to pay a guy like Bart Scott $4 million, it would be worth paying the best NFL GM on the planet (whoever that is) at least that much if he can find someone with Bart Scott talent at a fraction of the price. Let's say, for example, that Bill Belichick is the best personnel guy on the planet (emphasis on "for example"). It makes perfect financial sense to offer him an obscene amount - $10 million or more - to lure him out of coaching into the front office if what he saves you is $12 million David Harris contract. I feel like the Jets have put a lot of effort in trying to find the Next Great Someone before he becomes great. At least with head coaches. I'm not real keen on having some outside consultant sit down with middle-tier candidates, asking them all "If you could be any kind of tree, what would you be," and hoping that they recommend a guy who *turns out* to be the next great thing.
On offense anyway. As long as Rex is in town, consistency on D is a good thing. Thurman stepping up will be healthy.
you don't fire Rex if you believe Rex is a good coach and doesn't need to be replaced. it is simple as that, the idea that you have to fire everybody is completely ridiculous.
Let me try it this way. It is not simply a matter of filling the HC position. If you are also concerned about several other positions on the CS and in the FO, and THE MARKET does not have the same opinion as you do about your lovable HC, then, and I concede this is tough to quantify, but TO THE EXTENT THE MARKET HAS A DIFFERENT VIEW OF YOUR LOVABLE HC, AND SEES THAT AS A NEGATIVE TO COMING TO YOUR TEAM, then potentially your decision to keep that HC has a transaction cost on your other hiring decisions. Let's say you run a company. You would like to have your son fill a senior role in the firm. But as best you can tell, not everyone else, surprisingly, is as on board the decision as you are. You also need to hire a new COO, and your son is not (even in your eyes) up to filling that position as well as the one you want to put him in. You have a short list of people you want as your COO. Their agents tell you they have reservations about your son taking that senior position. Do you not see a cost here to your decision to put your son in that senior position? How about if no one you would otherwise consider for the COO position is willing to take it as long as your son is going to take that senior position? I assume you will answer that no one will take that approach to whether to accept the COO position or not. I think you are wrong. If I were looking at a couple of COO positions, and one was with a company owned by a father who wanted to put his dingbat son in a senior position where I was going to have to work in that corporate culture and with that dingbat son and also be expected to perform when I had reason to believe the owner was not going to blame his son, first, second or ever, for any failures of performance... I would probably try and get one of the other jobs.
Woody could have taken a completely different approach. Not fire anyone under contract and hire a GM who has complete authority to do as he wished. A much more interesting approach then I just have to have my HC at all costs.
The negative nancies are out in full force today. Anything to suggest incompetence & wrongdoing. It's not even fun to be a fan of this team anymore. Any ounce of optimism has been completely demolished. It's no longer just football related transactions..now we have to bash the innerworkings of the management structure. Forget monday morning Quarterback..it's monday morning CEO.
the issue isn't whether that dynamic exists, the issue is that nobody claiming that Rex is turning off candidates has any knowledge or authority to make such a claim with any credibility, and in doing so are doing nothing but projecting their own disappointment of Rex onto every candidate that has not been hired and attempted to pinpoint that as the reason.
You left out the part about " soon to be champs " and the other about " winning multiple championships "
