Revis is a future Hall of Famer. Wants to get paid accordingly. What don't people understand about this?
Completely agree wit the op. he gave out so many outrageous contracts and it changed entire dynamic of free agency
Yep. Execting to get paid what you are worth does not make one a greedy bastard. If I were prepared to take significantly less than I am worth from my employer, I would call myself something other than not greedy. I would call myself a chump.
he is well within his rights to ask for what ever he thinks he is worth. it is also the jets right to offer what they think he is worth. if he is willing to accept that,fine. if he isn't than we have to accept that the current g.m. has a structure of what he is willing to pay for players at each position. so the fans will have to deal with it or go root for whatever team revis goes to. maybe they will setup a revis forumn on the new teams message board.
except there is no absolute chart for what "paid accordingly" means, so your statement is meaningless. if Revis believes he is worth x, but no team agrees, then what is his actual worth? your statement implies his worth is simply what he thinks it should be, but what a player is worth is based on more factors than that.
you're right. the question becomes has Revis adjusted what he thinks his value is worth based on the current market?
Idzik should be trying to determine this, and i hope he is. Reports were out that Tampa would offer Revis 12-13 mil range, and that would get it done. Who knows if those reports were accurate. But with Nnamdi being cut, this is the current market for highest paid CB's, based on avg salary per year. Champ 10.75mil Carr, Finnegan, Joseph all approx 10mil Then a bunch of guys in the 8-9.5mil range, including Cro That's the market. Revis is clearly better than those guys, so i'd certainly offer 12 rather then trade him away below value.
HOLD OUT. It's unfortunate but whenever I think of Revis and how a contract could be structured to give the Jets the maximum cap flexibility those two words just keep coming to mind. Imagine what it would be like having a good franchise QB who was always threatening to hold out when his current year's pay wasn't looking as good as the top of the market that year. Now make him a CB. I think Revis is gone and I think the two words I started this post with are ultimately going to be the only reason.
Here we go again. Brad has a long record of criticism of the handling of football affairs by the Jet FO, particularly under Tanny. But Brad also has a Revis hatred, in part based on his harebrained idea that #1 cb is a literally unimportant position on the team. So when it comes to Revis's history of trade negotiations, suddenly it is as if the Jet FO is entirely blameless for the difficulties in past trade negotiations. The same Tanny who F'd up this and that was entirely blameless for Revis's hold out. That is nonsense. Now I am not saying Revis was without blame, either. But it was widely reported and never disputed that Tanny had assured Revis he would be paid close to market with a deal wrapped up before the 10 season. Apparently Tanny went back on his word. THere was a pattern of this with Tanny. He did the same thing to Pete Kendall, and with such woeful results, too. Brad knows all about the Kendal situation. But when it comes to Revis? THe Jets are as pure as the driven snow. No they aren't.
(1) Why sign him only to a 4-year 'band-aid' contract and not lock him up for 6-8 years ?? (2) Why give up the Franchise tag ??? You cave on the renegotiation and the $$$$ ? Fine....but you get the years and/or the Franchise tag (2 years you can use it). WTF was Tanny thinking ? This was worse than the Sanchez extension or signing Tebow.
It was also widely reported and never disputed that Revis wants $16 million per year. There is also a pattern with Revis wanting to be paid above and beyond what is normal. Tanny had exactly 1 player hold out under his watch and the same player did it twice. Not only that but he has made it quite clear that he, like his uncle Gilbert, is in this for the money and will hold out whenever he feels it is necessary to get top dollar. It's not like people are coming out of left field with these ideas that Revis wants more money all the time.
I am not sure what you mean by beyond what is normal. Since Revis is not a "normal' player as in average. The fact is the Jets have had from time to time contract issues with players. The Kendall situation is not the only one. While Kendall did not hold out there, he did other things, like make a public stink and he was also the union's rep from the Jets. Every player is in it for hte money. That's why it's called professional football. I have already answered your point abou $16 mil several times and you don't seem to understand the response. Neither do you accept the reports that Revis would in fact reportedly sign for the $12 to $13 mil range. Yet you keep talking about $16 mil. WOuld you really be happy if the Jets do not even try to resign him, they get less than comparable value for him, and he signs elsewhere for $12 or even $13 mil? And please don't say yes because it's a cap decision. I hope I can give you more credit than that.
It only takes one team to "make the market". The Aso contract is ancient history and doesn't apply today but Buffalo is now the standard bearer. Mario Williams is the new benchmark for Revis' reps and he is only 12 months from signing that contract. Revis feels he deserves to be the highest paid defensive player in the league after Williams' 6 years, 96 MIL with 50 MIL guaranteed contract. This off season the FA dollars just haven't been there. Obviously, Revis and his reps won't accept that the market has changed and it only takes one team to "make the market". Maybe they find that team, maybe they don't but they are damn well gonna force the issue to try and find that team.
Every team has contract issues. Every player doesn't hold out on a regular basis and make it a point to tell everyone that they will continue to do so if they don't feel they're being paid top dollar. You don't seem to want to acknowledge the fact that Revis's demands are generally unreasonable even given the level of his play. You also don't seem to want to acknowledge the fact that a reasonable negotiation generally has a reasonable starting point on both sides. $16 million a year is not really a reasonable figure for a corner to even begin negotiations. Where are those reports about him signing for $12 to $13 million? If they exist I must have missed them.
Sanchez, Holmes, Tebow, and Revis decisions really killed this team for the next few seasons. I'll never understand what was going through his head. Talk about having no priorities Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
It's really not though. He's a top 5 defensive player in the league, best player on his team and best cornerback in the league. So how is he paid compared the other 4 best defensive players, the players on his team and the other top corners?
I think your bolded part is one I disagree with. There is no rule what is a reasonable starting point. It is not so unreasonable as to preclude negotations. As far as those reports, I don't have to do your research for you. Heh. But they are there.
Blame Tanny's "band aid" contract. Blame Rex's praise of Revis. Blame giving Sanchez an undeserved contract extension. Revis admitted he'd probably hold out after 2 years and now here we are.
I think we can stop using the phrase 'future hall of famer'. Before his injury Revis had 2 good and 1 great seasons. Considering the seriousness of his injury and the position he plays, he may come back 'only' as good as say, Aso or Cro, neither of which are future hall of famers.
