2013 Season - Could we have a reversal of fortune

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  1. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    the decline in talent had nothing to do with where they drafted.it had lot to do with trading too many picks away and not finding enough contributors in the later rounds. in fact, under rex the highest pick has also been the biggest disappointment so far.
     
  2. Barcs

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    I'm pretty sure that Colts fans were saying the same thing before last season.
     
  3. Jeti

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    Look at our drafts since 09 and look at where we finished record wise vs where we picked in the draft

    I'm not saying picking late was the only reason but it had a lot to do with not getting quality talent
     
  4. strngplyr

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    The Colts, at least last season, were a fluke. They weren't particularly good at anything and snuck into a crappy AFC playoff race and were promptly bounced out. They won by an average of 6.1 and lost by an average of 19.6 and somehow managed to make the playoffs.

    This won't happen every year.
     
  5. Jeti

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    Apples and Oranges bro

    Jags never had a QB or anything good for that matter

    Ravens did have a great core and all they did was plug and play their guys

    Consistency goes a long way with building your team

    The Jets picking 29th and then 30th in back to back drafts and shitting the bed in both was a killer

    As opposed to picking at the crop earlier and getting better products while Wilkerson was a steal, we all love Kerley and Kyle is fine

    Ducasse and almost everyone else from the 10 and 11 drafts haven't don't much

    If you're drafting late you better do it right or have a stud QB and HC combo
     
  6. ArmandJ

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    Mark Sanchez is not Andrew Luck. If we are lucky, Geno Smith MAY be Andrew Luck...two completely different situations.

    But, I know you think Mark Sanchez will be in the Pro Bowl (LOLOLOLOLOL) for some reason. I don't see how, since he's never been above average all his career, but ok...
     
  7. 1968jetsfan

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    The Jets didn't add Andrew Luck in the off season.
     
  8. 1968jetsfan

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    I doubt that Hill is gone next year unless he has a complete disastor of a season, but he may drop from #2 or 3 to #4-5 on the depth chart if he doesnt' step up his game this season. too much talent and too little WR depth for him not to be here next year unless he totally tanks.
     
  9. 1968jetsfan

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    If Ihad to guess right now at the jets record before the break, and this is really too early to guess as we don't know who's getting starting jobs not only on the Jets but a couple of other key teams we play in the first 9 games, but I'd guess the Jets are either 2-7 or 3-6 after the first 9 games. IF I had to guess right now.

    Even the most optimistic side of me has the Jets at best 4-5 after the first 9 games.
     
  10. ArmandJ

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    It'd be great if we're 4-5. The schedule softens up considerably after the bye.
     
  11. Joe Willie White Shoes

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    No. It does not. That is a typical simplistic fan and media approach to football.

    If Hill does not develop and Holmes foot is still hurting and the new guards do not step up, the QB will struggle no matter who the QB is. An offense that can't run the ball and has no receivers does not depend on the QB
     
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  12. Dom

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    joe willie white shoes, the QB clearly is the biggest factor though. i know not every QB is aaron rodgers, but he still played great with the 2nd shittiest oline in football, his TE dropping every pass going his way, and his top 2 WRs initially (jordy nelson and greg jennings) being hurt for most of the season.

    look, if mark sanchez becomes anything like alex smith (which is extremely possible) or geno smith plays like russell wilson (these are reasonable expectations), this team is infinitely better. also let it be known that even though wilson had marshawn lynch, his WRs and TEs were no names for the most part
     
  13. displacedfan

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    The key is the offense. With Rex's D if you can score in the RZ and not turn the ball over, you should be good for around 7-8 wins. Get a couple more bounces, maybe sneak into the playoffs with 9 wins if the AFC has a down year.

    The offense can't give up points and give up the ball. We also have to avoid injuries. We aren't a very deep team at many positions, so we need to get lucky injury wise.

    If the offense can progress from one of the worst in the league to average I think that gets us to 7-8 wins. Remember we did get 6 wins last year, but the schedule broke our way with a lot of bad teams. Maybe that happens this year, because there are usually strong teams on paper that end up being easy matchups. Right now though, the schedule looks really tough to start.
     
  14. Hobbes3259

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    Hardly.

    If the Jets fo less than 3-1 thru four, you should be disappointed (barring Major injury).

    The next several games are tough, but lets face it while all of those teams are very good, none of them are indestructable. Saints, outdoors, potential bad weather...atlanta, very good, not great...Pittsburgh, is ripe to be beaten.Cincy..meh...

    And if the offense is middle of the NFL, by the Bye, and the defense is what its supposedmto be, the backend of the schedule is not all that bad.
     
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  15. Br4d

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    This would be true if the guy who picked him was still in house. If he looks like a great athlete who is not a football player this year he is probably gone by next camp. Rebuilding means not buying into the last guy's delusions, it means creating your own and hoping they work out.
     
  16. ArmandJ

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    Playing at Atlanta has a 99 percent chance of a loss. I agree about Saints, sure. Cincy is going to be very good next year. Pitt could be on the downswing. As for New England, tradition under Rex shows we get blown out in our second matchup.

    Running your boyfriend out there will not help us very much at all.
     
  17. Hobbes3259

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    Jests played Atlanta well, but lost last time. 70/30,

    Cincy, is good. But the Jets should be.
    Pitt they should beat.

    NE I see as a loss, because theyre going to be up for the game, after getting beat earlier.
     
  18. ArmandJ

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    Let's make a bet. Over/under how many wins out of murders row (New Orleans, Pats, Bengals, Atlanta, Pittsburgh)?
     
  19. Hobbes3259

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    My over under would be 2. Id hope to get 3.

    I would have gone 3, but against Pitt, the Jets are usually playing the Zebras too.

    Whats your over under on the first 4?
     
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  20. ArmandJ

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    It's reasonable to expect a 3-1 start with Geno. With Sanchez, I'd say 2-2.
     

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