The fans won't be making the decision to pull him, as much as you credit them for it. If he keeps turning the ball over like this, the Jets will have no choice. The entire team is -10 in turnover ratio and Geno has personally accounted for 11 turnovers.
Nope, I didn't really give up on Nacho until 2012, but it was pretty obvious by 2011 he wasn't getting over the hump. Nowadays if your QB doesn't get it by year 3, odds are they're not going to get it. Keep making opinions up and attributing them to me, it's pretty much the lowest form of trolling but it's entertaining watching you squirm when I call you out on it. PS-You were wrong about Sanchez.
Unfortunately I think fan reaction plays into it. It shouldn't but it does. He obviously can't keep turning it over at this pace but he is a rookie that wasn't ready to play and was forced into action. We shouldn't make long term judgments based on this. he had us w/in a game of the SB- what was obvious is that we could win big w/ him. I apologize if your posts don't stand out and I confuse them w/ all the other nonsense on this board. I wasn't wrong, he has the most playoff wins in franchise history(DOUBLE), he is 3rd in road playoff wins. The man proved he could play and we could win w/ him. Not his fault he had no talent to work w/ last year.
We could win big by playing around him, most teams don't win by hiding their QB nowadays which is what we did for years.
I don't see pulling the guy as a long term judgment. I see it as an admission that it was a mistake to start him when he wasn't ready. No sense in exacerbating a mistake by not admitting it was a mistake. That is stupidity justified by pride.
he wasn't hidden at all, he was a huge part of our success. Not the biggest part but still a big part of it. I agree w/ you to an extent but there is a reason they took him w/ a high pick in rd 2. Those abilities didn't go away, they need to coach him up to those abilities. Not every player is ready to go game 1 of their rookie year and clearly he was not and despite that he has had some success and helped us win half our games. Too soon to pass long term judgement
he was out of bounds, that shouldn't have been an INT and mark led us to 34 pts on O in a blowout win that day
I agree that they can pull him and it doesn't have to mean anything long term.. It could simply just be saying he's struggling and perhaps not ready and they still have hopes to come back to him and high hopes for his future. They did it with Dee Milliner - why can't they do it with Geno Smith? I just don't know that there is anything much better as an alternative. I'm not sure how you feel about Simms, but it would kind of defeat the purpose to pull one QB in the name of "not being ready" for another that's not ready....
It's probably for the best for his career going forward. He'll be a backup somewhere else next season. Maybe one day down the road he can come in for an injured starter and try to revive his career. The best thing for Mark the next couple seasons is anonymity and working at his craft. I wish him the best going forward, but I can't say I'll be sorry to see him go.
Well said - not a bad person, wish him well. Now that the somewhat deceptive 2-1 record hoopla's died down, and we're seeing the roster talent for what it is -- still full of holes in spots -- the numbling realization is starting to set in; the Jets possibly more than just a year or two away given the uncertainty at QB at this stage of the game. Maybe Smith's the answer, maybe he's not. What's tough to take is not knowing where the Jets stand at the most important position - not knowing if the cavalry's on the way.
Agreed completely. People actually reveling in this news really shows the bottom of the barrel of our fanbase.
Geno won't be pulled for Simms. If we had an Orton or veteran like that behind him, then yes, it would be a possibility. Simms would likely have the same growing pains as Smith and his ceiling is not as high (nor does the organization have a high draft pick invested in him). Barring a string of games like yesterday's, I can't see Geno being pulled this season.
Realistically, the Jets have little invested in Geno Smith. He is a second round QB chosen by a new GM who came from an organization that shelved a QB (Flynn) who they traded a first rounder for and started a 3rd rounder who performed immediately. Pulling Smith in favor of a prospect who showed flashes of brilliance in preseason isn't some kind of controversial move. Adding to that, Smith was injured in preseason and I saw him cringing and holding him arm to his body after hits yesterday and limping at times. If he is injured, he will never admit it, and things will just get worse, just as they did when Sanchez was hurt in 2011. If Simms comes in and shits the bed, they don't have to keep him in, but the upside is that it gets Geno focused and gives him some time to heal. This year is obviously a rebuilding year. They have nothing to lose by not committing to one QB or another when neither has the "can't miss" expectations of a first round prospect.
It's funny to see all the exclamations points thrown in here. Not in the haha funy way, in that pathetic sort of way. Pretty sure a bucnh of these a-holes were cheering when Penny went down. Stay classy Jet Nation. _
