what kind of logiski are you using to come to this determination? let me be clear on what you are saying, you are saying rex had his hands tied by idzik because idzik wanted geno to win and THAT is why rex played mark sanchez in the 4th quarter of a meaningless preseason game? is that what you are saying here? that might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. did idzik call rex on the bat phone and tell him to put mark in? did he want to put mark in because geno was doing poorly and he wanted mark to do more poorly? its fucking signature worthy.
Really? We should draft a 1st or 2nd round QB three drafts in a row if they're BPA? Just brilliant! Yeah I'm well aware of what happens in the NFL. Who says Aaron Rodgers wouldn't have been just as good, if not better, having played those three seasons instead of sitting? Nobody does. Because nobody knows. So pretending to know just makes you sound moronic. For as many Rodgers you have, you have a dozen who played their rookie years and turned out great. So spare me your ignorance.
If Mark played well, clearly outplayed Geno and won the job, great. But he didn't. All reports were that he didn't even come close. And what the hell psychic powers are you using that you think you can actually predict our record if this and that, that and this, blah blah blah. Wow that's just dumb.
That IS why rex played him. Read slowly, I didn't say Idzik demanded mark play in the 4th qtr but the sham competition forced him to play Mark. mark clearly was the better QB, that's not debatable and if it was up to Rex he would have named mark starter long before that Giant game but Rex lost his power and mark wound up getting hurt. Rex expected mark to go in and play well and end the sham except mark went in and got hurt. It's a honor that you think so highly of me that you need to include me in your sigs, if only you could read and understand what I write though.
yes he did and all reports had mark as the runaway winner. I don't know what reports you were reading.
I've yet to find the elusive "Sanchez running away with competition" article you speak of. I actually googled those exact words and the articles that came up were about how Geno was clearly winning. Lol.
You stating what the Jets record would have been (had Sanchez started this season) is just fucking dumb, all-around dumb. I thought you were smarter than to that -- to make those kind of claims. Oh well.
Gotta go with Junc on that one. Sanchez was the better QB in preseason... by a lot. And if this whole QB competition was so rigged and Sanchez had one foot out the door, why didn't we just IR him when he got hurt? Burning our IR designated to return on him is a pretty clear indication that he still held value in the eyes of BOTH the FO and CS, no? That doesn't mean he was the starter when he returned, but it surely demonstrates that his ouster wasn't a foregone conclusion. Speaking of Sanchez and bringing this thread back to the original topic, is he having surgery or not?
thats a little bit better but still one of the dumbest things i have ever seen. the issue is that rex has been so enamored that he decided to act like a fucking baby and have a see see look what my guy did when your guy didnt do so good moment. he brought mark in to have success and try to sell the bullshit that mark was the way to go to idzik, thats not idziks fault that is a move that a little bitch of a man makes. i lost alot of respect for rex because of that absolutely childish move. in all honesty if i was idzik that would have shown me everything i need to know about rex no matter how well he did in the season. and i wont say that geno smith won the competition, neither one of them was very good. Its pretty fucking obvious that the jets have no use for mark sanchez anymore and he was only here because it cost too much to cut him. so i just cant grasp why we would waste any more time with a qb who we already know wont be here next year.
not sure but i dont think they can ir him just because they want to, kinda like the whole arod fiasco this past year. they also cant force him to have the surgery. i would be surprised if we see him again.
Sanchez played more in the preseason...by a lot. Geno had basically the Giants game to go out and play a bunch. He didn't play well, but given the rookie learning curve you've got to cut him some slack. And are we all forgetting the Sanchez pick-6 on the second play or whatever of the preseason?!? On a screen pass no less? Come on. That's vintage Sanchez. Clearly he hasn't learned much. And he continued to throw bad picks afterwards. Oh, and this was preseason by the way, which as we all know, can make crappy payers look good, and good ones look crappy. I don't hold a lot of stock in it. Bottom line is for most of training camp, Geno was impressive and gave Sanchez a real run for his money and maybe even overtook him.
I Totally disagree with you. You are basically saying if this "Rookie" QB has a bad "Rookie" season we need to use another top pick on yet another QB? What if he doesn’t show much in his 1st season? Don’t you see how this approach could leave the cupboard bare? Geno is our starter for multiple years barring injury. This is why the best approach for not only his career but the Jets in general would to have had him learn and maybe get some chances to start later in the year. Unfortunately, we had our clear cut starter in Mark playing in the 4th QTY of a meaningless preseason game.
i disagree, we arent tied to geno smith in any way shape or form. we can move on from him at the end of the year without much loss. its VERY tough to judge where a guy will be in 3 years by looking at his rookie year, but its even harder to tell if he doesnt play. i would absolutely draft andrew luck if he were coming out this year and we had geno coming back next year as a 2nd year player. im not sure i think that highly of ANY of the kids coming out this year but im also not a scout.
Really? What preseason game that Geno played in indicated that he played better than Mark enough to win the job? "All reports".....yes please provide links to indicate that Geno was the starting QB BEFORE Sanchez got injured.
We sure are tied to Geno, he the fucking starter and a 2nd round pick. SO you must think the way an organization gets to the pinical is to draft multipul 1st and 2nd round QB's until the find the ONE? That my friend will have the fanbase up in arms and leave the team with no hig rated skill players to draft (as thy would use these picks on a QB). Geno SMith is the Jets QB for the next 2-3 years, regardless. Idzik has hitched his wagon to this guy. And remember, if Geno comes out last year hes picked BEFORE Wilson and right after RG3, he was rated that high...
can you refrain from cursing please? It's not dumb, it's based on what we know and w/ our healthy talent and the new OC and upgraded OL w/ better D it's safe to assume we would be at least 3-1 if not 4-0. I am honored since you know dumb things:grin: Geno didn't win it, if it was a real competition it would have been over at least a week earlier. a pick 6 is better than having no presence and stepping out of the EZ.
Nope, not basically saying that at all. It's an evaluation year, for not only Geno but every player. If he plays well enough to give us confidence going forward, then there is no pressing early round QB need. If not, well, you might see how the draft falls and if you have the chance to draft someone you love you do it. You have a very simplified, childish perspective on it. Put our eggs all in one basket and ride the guy even if he sucks?? 4 years!? He's a 2nd round pick for Gods sake! That's the exact idiotic idea that put us in the crappy position we are now.
