Geno's accuracy is his one element that may already be elite.

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  1. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Spoken like a true WVU fan.

    Someone once told me WVU rarely didn't cover the spread. Hopefully agree on that lol.
     
  2. NCJetsfan

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    Don't worry, you are! ;):p
     
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    And that beautiful throwing motion of his. He rarely throw a wobble. Geno will be an over 65% passer career-wise and I'm looking forward to watching it. I've been following him since his WV days when he use to run a lot in the beginning. That dude can sling that football.
     
  4. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    You know that the Jets won 3 games last year when they trailed by 9, 10 and 11 points, right? They also won a game where the Falcons took the lead with less than 2 minutes to go.

    Whether Geno is going to be an elite QB or not remains an open question but he is clearly capable of bringing the Jets back when they're down early.

    They beat the Pats in a game that was 21-10 Pats at halftime.
     
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    The same was true last year.
     
  6. ncjetfan

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    Right now there is a lot to be excited about. Geno could surprise a lot of people but I won't be one of them. He was pretty bad at points last yr but he improved and continues to do so.

    This kids cool demeanor and powerful arm are winning me over. He really seems to learn from his mistakes unlike another player that comes to mind.
     
  7. JStokes

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    Hey look he was accurate in pee wee football! And in HS! Look at these college highlights!!

    Accuracy is accuracy!!

    Stop. None of that matters.

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  8. Footballgod214

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    Completion % and accuracy tend to go hand in hand. Most WRs can't catch a ball thrown 20 feet over his head. Just ask Tebow.

    I remember Penny as being an very accurate passer. Anyone want to look up his Completion %? (pre injury). I would but no time...
     
  9. Footballgod214

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    If Geno's QB play last year was ZERO and someone like Rogers/Brady/Manning was a TEN, then I'd like to see Geno improve to around FOUR this year. And close to SEVEN in his third year. If that's as good as he gets, with our defense and running game the Jets will be winning a lot of bling.
     
  10. wGENOvFANu

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    http://regressing.deadspin.com/charts-who-are-the-best-deep-passers-in-the-nfl-1469917039

    Yes it does matter. And for the 3rd time, those weren't highlights! Highlights wouldn't show incompletions or interceptions. But I guess someone with your reading comprehension skills wouldn't know that.

    He did it at the lower levels and he continued to do it last year and I suspect he'll continue to do it this year. Just because I know it pisses you off to see that he is accurate, I'm going to post this link again...

    http://regressing.deadspin.com/charts-who-are-the-best-deep-passers-in-the-nfl-1469917039
     
  11. bigbucks24

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    Geno is the 24th most "accurate" passer if you are considering completion % as the standard. #8? Mark Sanchez. Still think his accuracy is elite?
     
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    Geno went 9 of 14 vs. the Giants Friday nite.

    Simms went 9 of 14.
    Vick was 4 of 5.

    Yawn.

    Accuracy means ugatz without a W...

    Figure out play action, Geno, and I'll be impressed...
     
  13. Superhippy

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    Pennington actually holds the record for completion percentage over the course of a player's career. If he had a little bit of a stronger arm Pennington could have been one of the all time greats but his noodle arm prevented him from making alot of the passes downfield that requires more zip.
     
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    Rodgers at Cal - 67 percent
    Brees at Perdue - 61.5 percent
    Wilson at NC State/Wisconsin - 61 percent
    Foles at Arizona - 64 percent
    Rivers at NC State - 64 percent
    Vick at Va Tech - 56 percent
    Kaepernick at Nevada - 57 percent

    And that's pretty much where all of these guys completion percentage for their careers have been. Brees had been about 5 points better since he played at Purdue who had almost no weapons at all. Kaepnernick is sitting on 59 percent for his career and that 4 or 5 percent difference between him and the top QB's in the league is the reason why the 49er's keep falling short of a Super Bowl, and is almost exactly what his accuracy was in college. Foles last year was at exactly 64% completion which was exactly his college number.

    The one metric when going from college to the pros that tends not to change is a QB's accuracy. You are what you are, and the coaches can't do anything to change that. They can improve footwork in order to get the ball out faster. They can teach about how to read a pro defense in order to make the right decision. There's not much they can do though when it comes to accuracy. Look at Teddy Bridgewater right now. People are amazed by how accurate he already is but to anyone paying attention it shouldn't be a surprise. The dude was at 68.4% in college. The Vikings got a steal.
     
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    It was just the injuries. Chad would have been a great QB if he stayed healthy despite the sub-par arm strength. All-time great probably wasn't going to happen because an aggressive pressing defense caused him problems even when he was healthy but he was a very good QB until his arm fell apart under the weight of the cumulative injuries.

    The late season 2004 and early season 2005 sequence basically killed any chance Chad had of being a star QB. He got hurt late in 2004 and then came back to play with his shoulder damaged. Was a great season for the Jets but it really hurt them for the long-term. Then in 2005 he clearly wasn't 100% after recovering from the surgery but the Jets started him anyway and the shoulder got blown out again early on and that was that.

    Chad was a total conundrum in terms of durability. He *was* like an egg back there but he returned to play with a shoulder that was torn up twice in his career, extensively late in 2004 and then to finish a game in 2005 when his backup went down with a shoulder injury.

    Some guys just can't catch a break.
     
  17. Donttasemebro

    Donttasemebro Well-Known Member

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    This thread...a combination of misplaced optimism and this
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    Maybe we let the season play out a little before canonizing the QB and/or calling him a bum?
     
  18. JStokes

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    Doesn't piss me off because I didn't click on them. Doing it at lower levels means jack shit in the NFL. If he does it this year then I'll agree, He's not yet an "elite" accurate passer. Pee Wee football and HS football be damned.

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  19. JStokes

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    One of the dumbest posts I've ever read here.

    Do you know who was a 66.4% passer in college while throwing for almost 10,000 yards?

    Better than Brees, Wilson, Foles, Rivers?

    Tim Tebow.

    College stats mean NOTHING in the pros.

    Just stop.

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  20. Tom

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    ..says the guy who thought Nassib and Boyd were both going to be way better than Geno. Obviously QB scouting guru.
     

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