Great thread gentlemen. Def helped lighten my day at work. If The KW's bro still posted here then we wouldn't need this thread.
Think about it though. He plays ok football. We've had lots of guys who were worse back there over the years. Instead of seeing him as part of a successful pass defense most of the time we see him as a failure. That's a pretty silly place to be, isn't it? The Jets pass D sucked last year because of the guys on the outside.
if you're whining about kyle wilson because he plays like a 4th rounder instead of a 1st rounder then you need to get over it. no one strikes gold with every 1st round pick. he's far from a bust. someone who has PFF stats could show you he's a good slot corner.
Again, I'm not disagreeing. My issue is he was drafted too high. You don't draft a player that high to be "okay". Thus, I think the critique is fair. If you rely on him to play on the outside with any regularity, you are dead. He's a nice nickel corner and that is all. As a first round pick, he's a bust. You just don't take first round picks to be good nickel corners. As a 4th round pick, nobody would have a problem.That's just not the case though.
That makes no sense. You draft a CB in the 1st round to be a shutdown corner. He can't play worth a shit on the outside. You don't draft a CB in the first round to cover the slot. He's a decent player at best, but a bust as a first round pick.
you're not being realistic. vernon gholston was a bust. kyle wilson is not. every fan wants their teams 1st round pick to be a superstar, but realistically how often does it happen? take a look back at previous drafts and I wouldn't be surprised if less than a third of 1st rounders measured up to their draft position.
I think I saw him intercept a pass once. Yes ... I'm sure of it. Also ... He's probably the 2nd best Kyle in team history ... Behind Clifton, but ahead of Brady.
Kyle is an example of a player that Idzik would love to upgrade NOW but has to be patient with so many other places the team needed help. Kyle was a 1st round pick Rex brought in to fill a hole at outside DB. Rex gave him several shots, failed them all, moved to the slot, and is below adequate even for that assignment. And now he himself is becoming a hole that needs to be filled. Kyle is lucky we have too many holes to fill all at once. And he may luck out again with our need at the DB opposite Milliner I really hope he's outta here before Idzik has to start using resources to replace Harris Mangold and Brick or we might be stuck with him for another 5 years.
I don't get all the hate. I get that people are disappointed that he hasn't lived up to his draft status, but as others have pointed out, he's not Vernon Ghost staus. He's obviously not Sheldon Richardson status either but he's at least turned out to be a useful role player. No, that's not what you hope for out of a first rounder, but it's not a terrible outcome either. Considering how well some of our our other recent first rounders are panning out I just don't get why people are still so hung up on bashing Wilson for his draft position. That was on the Jets, not him. And in any case that was years ago now, let it go already. Not that I would be mad if he was let go but I also don't see any urgent need to replace him. I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out this season. If he plays poorly it's more than likely he won't be a Jet in 2015.
Do you always just blow information out of your ass or no? Please explain this because obviously you'd rather rely on your eye test than physical proof. Kyle Wilson is not a bust. Vernon Gholston is a bust. Jamarcus Russell is a bust. Mike Williams is a bust. Kylle Wilson is an underachiever who was clearly drafted too high. He doesn't control his draft position. He plays the slot position well above average and would be very tough to replace. Do you remember when we let Strickland walk? We got torched by #3 receivers for an entire season. Watching Drew Coleman play nickel and dime was equivalent to watching Rosie O'Donnell get banged out by Ron Jeremey. The nickel is a very tough position to play and Wilson does a nice job of it. You won't find someone who can "replace" him. There just aren't enough people good at the position.
No he doesn't. He has almost no ability to attack the ball and relies on bad throws and WRs dropping EZ catches. He had ONE legit pass defense in all of 2013.
We've had a dozen or more CB's come and go in the last few years, Kyle is still here. He may not be what we expected, but he's better than the others.
Wilson getting little to no snaps thus far in Week 2. Has Rex finally turned the page on Wilson? Let's hope!
