ESPN's take on the Jets

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  1. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    Just watched Sunday Countdown on ESPN, and they had a roundtable discussion by 3 former players discussing the state of the Jets (Tom Jackson, Cris Carter, and Keyshawn Johnson).

    Some key points they made:

    *** Tannenbaum and Idzik are "glorified accountants", who can manage the cap but have no experience making personnel decisions/evaluating talent. Ian O'Conner said the same thing recently about Idzik. (also on ESPN, will try to find link)

    *** Rex Ryan is a very good coach, and he made it to AFC title game his first 2 seasons with Sanchez at QB because he had better overall talent on the roster.

    *** This year, the Jets have over 20 mil. in cap space, 2nd most in the NFL (behind the 0-5 Jags). No surprise - when your GM is not willing to spend the necessary money to build a competitive roster, you won't win.

    *** Ultimately the owner is responsible for having hired back to back GMs with little football knowledge or player personnel experience.

    Their conclusion --- the Jets need to get some football guys in the building, in the front office!
     
  2. Jetsfansince95

    Jetsfansince95 Well-Known Member

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    Football guys want nothing to do with us lol
     
  3. wa2k99

    wa2k99 Active Member

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    They're correct across the board.
     
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  4. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    The guy who picked the defensive ROY of the year cannot make decisions? Or the guy who found Ivory for us? That's a little extreme.

    Rex Ryan is not a very good coach right now.

    Yes the Jets have a lot of cap space right now. Yes they stuck to keeping the money instead of spending on players they didn't want.

    Woody Johnson has been owner during one of the most successful period with the Jets. That's partially because we never had a really successful run like other teams. I do wonder about some of his decisions, I think it's way too early to judge Idzik and let's not forget that Tanny was successful for the middle part of his tenure. He spent, spent, traded picks, and built a win now team. He just couldn't rebuild/retool which led to him being let go
     
  5. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    "Rapoport also noted that one reason the Jets didn't fire Ryan last year was out of fear of watching him move on and win elsewhere. That same fear still exists.

    There is zero doubt Ryan will get another NFL job if he's fired. As one of the best defensive minds in football, he'll be the hottest name available the nanosecond the Jets decide to cut ties."
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...nlikely-to-fire-rex-ryan-john-idzik-midseason

    (the whole article is interesting, if you haven't seen it already)
     
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  6. pclfan

    pclfan Well-Known Member

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    The only guy of those three I respect at all is Jackson. Idzik has the player personnel credentials to be GM. It's a plus that he also has business credentials, too. The cap will be spent re-signing Jets players.
     
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  7. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah Rex will get hired quick if we let him go.
     
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  8. Flyboy

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    I'm predicting Raiders.
     
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  9. 94Abraham

    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    Doubtful. No one wants that stiff as their head coach. He'll snatch on somewhere as a DC if anything.
     
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  10. Axel3419

    Axel3419 Well-Known Member

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    If Mike Pettine is a head coach in this league, Rex Ryan is certainly head coach material.

    I don't agree that Idzik is just an accountant. He played football in college and has been a personnel guy in the past.

    But I do agree about the fear of Rex leaving and toasting us in the future (or taking some of his players with him to his new team...)
     
  11. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Jackson is the one you respect? The guy is a clown.
     
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  12. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    So he will get hired?
     
  13. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Rex'll want to go there after they fired Rob.
     
  14. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    NFL Network threw us under the bus pre the Broncs game
     
  15. LongIslandBlitz

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    Rex picked Sheldon Richardson that was a gimmie,Those are Idziks only two bright spots,what about the 16 things he fucked up,what about the 9 draft picks that aren't on the roster,what about saving all the cap and not putting talent around the shitty qb he drafted,what about leaving the secondary with more holes then a shooting victim.What about drafting Millner who is a Chyna doll
     
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  16. Flyboy

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    I forgot about that.
     
  17. displacedfan

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    Rex picked him? So Rex picked the rest of the picks or the good ones go to Rex and the bad ones to Idzik? Richardson wasn't a gimmie according to the "experts".

    Saving the cap space is fine. I don't want Idzik overspending on a player and then having bad, large contracts like we had with Tanny. You can't fully judge a multi year plan after one year. Rex doesn't get blame for not being able to coach up a QB? Or secondary players? It's a combination, but it's too early to judge Idzik. It's not good, it's not bad.
     
  18. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

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    Whoopee Idzik hit on one top ten pick and another trade that any of us could have made, Ivory was rumored for freaking months before we got him and everyone knew of his talent, he was just never gonna get the run of it with the Saints' backfield quagmire.
     
  19. BomberJet

    BomberJet Well-Known Member

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    It's all about the QB, folks ...this is what it's all about .....
    people can harp on all the the things wrong with the Jets but if you can't put the points on the board...+ turning
    it over in addition, you're not winning many games in the NFL.

    Yes Rex did bring the Jets to the playoffs 2 seasons in a row, but Sanchez was a SMARTER player than Gino, who has shown to be
    indecisive and very 1 dimensional, i.e., looking down 1 receiver per play.

    Didn't Idzig help build Seattle to super bowl contenders? What do those ESPN players know that makes them competent to judge
    a staff only 2 seasons in?

    Take their opinions with a grain of salt.
     
  20. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    The idea that the Jets didn't fire because they were afraid he'd come back to beat them makes zero sense. Comical, stupidity.
     
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