Who Replaces D Davis?

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  1. RLUCAS4137

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    To piggy back on the weed conversation, I gotta say that I hope MO stays, but if he were to be traded after being tagged, I'd be all about giving Daryl Washington shot and I'd think he wouldn't mind playing for a former coach. Jets could probably get him on the cheap even without trading MO.

    Per Rotoworld:

    Fox 910 Phoenix's Mike Jurecki "wouldn't be surprised" if the Cardinals released suspended ILB Daryl Washington this offseason.
    Washington isn't costing the Cardinals anything on their reserve/suspended list, but he can't get reinstated after myriad off-field violations, and Cardinals official website writer Darren Urban previously predicted Washington has played his final down for the team. Per FOX Sports' Jay Glazer, the ultra-talented Washington has "continued to have violations" while in the NFL's drug program. Still only 29, Washington's career is literally wasting away. The 2012 Pro Bowler hasn't played since December of 2013. Feb 17 - 8:19 PM
     
  2. James Hasty

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    Two words

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  3. Big Blocker

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    D Davis for me goes down as the most disappointing player in terms of my own hopes the last 3-4 years. For a time he sure looked like he was going to develop into a solid starter, and perhaps even replace Harris as the key player among the LB's. but he also looked at times before last year like that was really at best an open question, and imo last season confirmed he was/is not going to live up to that standard.

    His obvious weakness is in pass coverage, and even during running plays he is too frequently not in the best position. The CS obviously lost faith in him as the 15 season progressed, and along with most here I do not expect he will be back, even for camp, let alone as a possible starter.

    Just a thought but perhaps what happened is as simple as opposing DC's figuring out how to best exploit his weaknesses. We can I think rule out any physical problems, or even something simple like laziness.
     
  4. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    more importantly, who is going to do his stupid celebration for his one tackle per game?
     
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    I've always been a fan of Demario but his play last year wasn't great. And it was reported players were getting annoyed at Demario trying to be a vocal leader and not backing it up on the field.


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    I'm still trying to figure out wtf his celebration is.
     
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  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't break down when he's trying to make a tackle and usually goes flying by ball carriers or takes a horrible undercut angle to them. Philly showed how to run the ball at him with mis direction and some isolation and rammed it down our throat. Block everyone but Davis and let the ball carrier make him miss.

    He disappointed me a lot too. He looked like he had the potential to step into the upper echelon of linebackers, but poor tackling trumps any physical ability. Thank god we kept David Harris after I would've dumped him.
     
  9. NCJetsfan

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    If he can't get reinstated and hasn't played a down since 2013, why in the world would you want to waste a roster spot and cap space for him? Do you think Bowles wants to deal with that headache. I don't remember how long Bowles was in Phoenix, but he may never have been there when Washington played and made it to the Pro Bowl. Even if so, I doubt he's gonna want to have to deal with him. It sounds like Washington hasn't accepted that he has a problem yet, so isn't going to change. You don't waste time, energy or resources on someone like that.
     
  10. Big Blocker

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    I will also admit my "meh" feeling last off season about the money they spent signing Harris was in significant part because I expected Davis to improve.

    I was wrong about Davis, and wrong about that.
     
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  12. LAJet

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    Lots of good info here to mull over. I'm a huge fan of our GM and have full confidence he is gonna think through all the pros and cons of our cap situation and come up with a solution that optimizes the strength of the team across the board and not just one area like our DL as currently constituted. Ideally he would want to keep Mo but not if it entails hamstringing our long range plan. He might have to take a step backwards this year to improve the future.

    I can not begin to second guess the man, but this much I can categorically say. He is going forward with the draft using the BPA approach. If he has someone highly rated irrespective of position he will pull the plug. We know that the draft is heavy with DL, but also with RB , OL and ILB. So when the bell rings at 20 he will have options.

    I can totally see him pulling the plug on Reggie Ragland and immediately strenghten the ILB position and groom Harris future replacement. I can see him going OLB but only if the value is there, or even a stand out DE that can play in a 3-4 as OLB. Same for OL or RB. He will not overreach, particularly in the early rounds.

    I can also see a few second tier free agents coming our way to fill a few holes, and even some unexpected trades.

    He might have to weaken slightly one area to strengthen a much weaker area. Build thru the draft for the future, plug in a couple of holes thru FA., restructure a couple of contracts and release hi paid marginal players.

    We might not be happy with all the moves, but for once we have a guy at the helm with a long term plan.
     
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    That's it, huh? For a while I thought it was Ralph Macchio getting crucified.
     
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    Lot more 3 safety sets that we would have seen had he not blown out his Achilles
     
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    The problem with looking at his tackle stats are what they don't show-- when Harris tackles an RB, more often than not, he makes the play in front of him. When Davis tackles an RB, more often than not, he has to turn and chase the guy down from behind because he's already past him. Granted, if it's a pass play, he can do the same thing, where Harris can't catch them.
     
  16. Br4d

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    Davis had 57 solo tackles in 2015. That's 3.5 a game.

    The Jets defensive linemen make a lot of tackles for a 3-4 group. The LB's have done a good job backing them up against the run, but they're never going to have elite numbers in terms of solo tackles because so many runs get stuffed at the line.

    Snacks isn't a good run defender, he's a great run defender. Mo isn't a good run defender, he's a great run defender. Richardson isn't a good run defender, he's a great run defender. Williams was a good run defender as a rookie and he's going to get better. We sometimes forget how good the guys up front are even when we're acknowledging how good they are. The Jets 4 regular rotational down linemen right now are historically great for a 3-4 run defense.

    The guys behind them are pretty good also. Douzable and Bowen and Barnes hold up their end when they're in, they just don't get a lot of opportunities because the guys in front of them are so good.

    Harris and Davis and Pace have played very well against the run also. Rex knows how to setup a solid front and he handed Bowles a pat hand there. The problem is in pass protection and to a lesser extent lack of pressure from the outside unless a DB is blitzing. Bowles made inroads there with Mauldin IV but he's going to have to shuffle the resources around some to get to his best scheme, because Rex's scheme had some holes in it by the time he was done building it.

    This is one of the reasons I think Mo may go. He's the best of a great group and some resources are going to need to be repurposed. Obviously if the Jets could afford to pay Mo $16M a year to play on the nose in the 3-4 that might be the best solution, but they can't afford that and it's not clear Mo would be as good against the run on the nose as Snacks. We really do not appreciate Snacks because of the things he can't do as well as some players. We should appreciate him for the things nobody does better.
     
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    Davis one of the worst tackling linebackers in the entire league. Put that Jets - Raiders tape on and count how many tackles he missed. The linebackers outside of Davis have done a good job, but not Davis himself.

    I think it's a good thing we have great defensive lineman [that we should try and keep], because man imagine if we had to put MORE responsibility on Davis to make plays last season? His ass would've been benched after the 3rd game.

    To add, I NEVER liked Davis as a NYJ Linebacker. I was so happy when we got Henderson an older linebacker.
     
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  18. Walt White

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    Short form:
    Snacks was bad to the bone last year.

    He was 4th in tackles on the team behind Harris, DD, and Gilchrist. He was shedding people doing it. Sometimes two, three guys.

    He was man handling people, and his lateral movement along the line was impressive.

    The role he played last year was big, really big.
     
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  19. Red Menace

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    So we now have Mauldin, who made a difference and progressed as the year went on, I expect him to better this year. Hopefully the jets daft another OLB at 20th or go OL.

    If they can grab a good OLB and complement Mauldin, I think it takes the pressure off the ILB position to be perfect on every passing situation.

    I will not be surprised if they select Shilique Calhoun and use him as a hybrid DE/OLB like they did Richardson last year, biggest difference is speed of Calhoun is superior to Sheldon so he will be better at the hybrid position.
     
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  20. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    At this juncture, it's about picking your poison ...
     

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