Sports Illustrated's Jets Off Season Outlook

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  1. vokab206

    vokab206 Well-Known Member

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  2. Jonathan_Vilma

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    The only way we keep Harrison and Ivory is if we don't keep Wilkerson. Getting rid of Mo seems to open up our offseason options a ton.

    It all comes down to whether the Jets believe he is a double digit sack player moving forward. If he is you have to pay him. If he's a guy that is going to get you 6 one year 9 one year 11 the next then you move on. I think the latter is more the truth of who he is as a player. I'd rather see us improve the entire roster than keep 1 player.

    Thanks Revis.
     
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    I can't agree with Ivory needing to be resigned.

    He's not worth the 4mil per that he's gonna get. And that has nothing to do with his play cause he's been great. But he cannot stay healthy over 16 games.

    Powell should be resigned and we need to look to the draft for his compliment. Just not in the 1st round.

    The Wilk situation is tricky. I don't think we could get equal value back for him at first , even if Mac was able to get a mid 1st rounder. But there are other ways to use that $$ that would improve the team, so the cap relief plus another top 20 player could make it worth it.

    If I'm being offered a combo like Ragland and Floyd instead of Mo I'm taking the young cheap guys.
     
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    If Mauldin IV turns into the ROLB the Jets have been missing forever the off-season becomes a lot easier. That's my hope for this off-season. Everything else I'm just going to roll with the punches.
     
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    he's becoming that. A nice grip of us seen it coming since we drafted him
     
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    big time. Maccagnan and Bowles might be fine going forward anyway. but sometimes, even in the ultimate team sport like football, the development of 1 player can make coaches & GMs lots of money & security. Mauldin is that player here. With the pieces already in place if he can take the next step into a very good, consistent pass rusher this team will be in great shape defensively into the future
     
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    I'm really starting to think we should have found another option other then Revis....there were a few good options during free agency last year.Revis played great at times this year but the only thing I remember now is the Buffalo game .
     
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    As long as Revis doesn't get worse in the next two seasons, we're good. He had two bad games, Houston and Buffalo. Aside from that, he was still very good.
     
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    We need $

    Until cutting the likes of Davis, Kerley etc I can't even wrap my mind around keeping our best players

    Mo costing a prohibitive amount will kill us. We can draft rushers and maybe get a cheaper FA

    We gotta sign Fitz, after that I don't know how it plays out
     
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    Ivory single handily won our first four games last season. ESPN highlights were 90% 'Chris Ivory heroics' the first month of the season. Without Ivory in 2015, Jets finish 7-9 at best. He will be an invaluable asset in 2016, and he will be used more properly this go around. Chan won't wear him down to the quick before our bye week. The best RB we've had since CM was dead man walking wk 17 in Buffalo. That won't happen again.
     
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    D Davis is a free agent....unless your talking about Kellen Davis who is also a free agent I belive
     
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    If we're paying Ivory in 2016 based on what he did in 2015 then we made a mistake.

    Ivory was great last year. I started off my point by saying that.

    But on a cap strapped team with bigger needs, paying 5 mil a year to a RB that breaks down as the season goes on would be foolish.

    You say it won't happen again but what proof do you have for that? One year older doesn't usually make it a better story when it comes to a RBs health.
     
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    He disappeared vs. Indianapolis, only rushed for over 100 yards 3 times all season and twice they were in double digit blowouts vs. Miami in London, and Tennessee. Single handedly won us four games? Best runningback since Curtis Martin? Thomas Jones is shaking his head somewhere right now.

    Ivory was decent, but he was a completely different player after that game vs. Washington. He combined for 84 yards on 55 carries including two games with 1.1 yards per carry averages in the next 3 games. His running style is one where he needs to be given 7-9 carries a game if you want him to be at full strength all year. He runs like Marshawn Lynch but has nowhere near the body to take the beating. It's not an insult, as very few can take that beating, but he's essentially fragile.

    He's going to go to another team for $5 million a year and they're going to figure that out rather quickly.
     
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    Yeah, I can't see us paying Ivory anything big. That would make no sense. I'd be very surprised if he returns.
     
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    I totally agree. I think Ivory was so good at the beginning of this year, but just couldn't stay healthy. It was almost bizarre watching his usage in the 2nd half of the year. Either way, from a pure money standpoint, Ivory is not worth a starter's contract when he misses so much time. Also runningbacks are a dime a dozen and we just gotta trust in Mac to get the right guy. I wouldn't think its impossible to see Ivory get passed over on his initial asking price from teams and we get a crack at resigning him for cheaper.
     
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    I'd also like to see Marcus Williams play well. He's super cheap and if he could be a good #2/#3, it would make the decision to cut Cro so much easier.
     
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    We saw some real promise from Mauldin this past season, and there is reason to think he might develop into a real force. But it remains to be seen whether he can be an every down player. His coverage skills are not proven.

    Counting on a player like him, including given his draft position, makes me think of another player many of us here were if not counting on certainly feeling like he was more likely than not to step up.

    That player's name was Demario Davis.
     
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    Plus he's got the head issues--not sure if it's multiple concussions or migraines but I'm not sure he's long for the league.

    I love the kid and I'm hoping for the best, but hope is not a strategy.

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    Reading that report and especially considering Ivory's mid season drop off and Cromartie's overall season, the factor we can guess about but don't really know is the extent to which either were injured, and how that figured into their play.

    In Ivory's case it's pretty clear SOMETHING was happening, and whether he tired, is generally fragile, or had some specific problem is not something that is clear.

    As for Cromartie I think there's more of a consensus after a very good come back year for the Cards in 14 that he may well be a victim of advancing time. But I do think he played marginally better toward the end of the season.

    Still, even though in theory the Jets could renegotiate with Cro, I think it likely he's gone. No one has reason to believe the Jets have any current player who can be inked in to replace him as the starter, assuming they want to keep Skrine as the nickel. That's a problem.
     

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