Why can't Darron Lee cover anyone?

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  1. Mainejet

    Mainejet Well-Known Member

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    No, actually YOU need to start using COMMON SENSE and LOGIC to solve everyday problems? Rather than getting your panties in a bunch and having this illogical obsession with responding to every single post I produce, perhaps you should STOP READING THEM????

    You cannot control me or what I post so get over yourself and this feeling of having to be right. So control the things that you can control. Stop reading and arguing with every post I make because it isn't about to change....
     
  2. BrowningNagle

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    It wasn't asking too much of Lee.

    It was 3rd and 10. Lee had short middle zone. Miami sent Landry out wide and then shifted him down inside because they wanted to pick on Lee. At that point its too late to switch but even still he's not out on an island with Landry. He's got short middle zone and all he has to do is keep Landry for picking up 10 yards. It was a basic slant route. Just back up, keep Landry in front of you, and tackle him short of the 1st down. Basic football play.

    But Sharon Lee inexplicably took a step outside at the line for no reason!!! Landry got inside of him and behind him. 1st down. it was terrible linebacking play and this is supposed ot be a guy we draft to count on in situations like this.
     
  3. Mainejet

    Mainejet Well-Known Member

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    He lost Landry by a mile. He was a good 5 yards behind when the pass was completed. It was piss poor coverage and Lee knew it at the conclusion of the play. He always seems to know at the end of every play that he just fucked up because he's caught shaking his head in disgust, yet he goes right back to making the very same mistakes afterward. He's just not good in coverage and I am beginning to wonder if he ever will be?
     
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  4. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Wow what a boring angry little cunt you are, take a chill pill and calm yourself down lol

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  5. Cidusii

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    Just pulled up the coach's film, don't see a shift out and back in by Landry. Seems to have started off in the slot. You can see Darron Lee look out to where Landry is just before the play starts. He was right up on the line between Ealy and Williams, then ran diagonally outwards towards Landry, basically on an island in that zone (2 corners and safeties back around the 10 yard marker. Can't really keep the play in front of him starting off right up on the line. Caught heading in the wrong direction to catch up to Landry, when Landry cuts sharply inwards. If he stays in the middle, and Landry's route takes him outside, it's 3 on 2 out there and Moore's pick of open receiver.

    Looking at the play, just before the play starts, Brooks creeps up and Maye drops further back. Maye ends up nowhere near any of the receivers, while 5 men blitz (Adams was the additional blitzer), effectively putting all of them 1v1 with deep safety help in Maye if need be. Brooks may have had enough vision to see if Landry cut out, but then it would be a decision between guarding Landry or hoping that if Julius Thomas goes deep, Maye can get across the field in time. I feel like it's a bad scheme matchup overall, and the Dolphins picked up the blitz fairly easily.
     
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  6. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    Somebody needs to tell me what Linebacker in the NFL covers that, and what Linebacker coming out next year covers that.

    Yeah, what fucking Linebacker covers Jarvis Fucking Landry on that same play?

    Typical.
     
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  7. Red Menace

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    I have to see the defensive formation again, based on what you are saying then it's a cover 3 with Maye covering the middle 1/3 of the field. Adams should be responsible for strong side zone coverage down low but instead he is asked to blitzis this leaves the rest of the LB in their respective zone coverage but it actually is a lot of space to cover by using Adam to blitz.

    Either Lee got to his area late and realized this during the snap hence why he started running to that side of the field or he thought he was playing one on one, while it's true that few LBs can cover Landry if any, it still shows lee struggling with his assignment on defense.

    I'm not trying to knock him, I'm simply trying to look at the defensive coverage on a passing situation and trying to determine if Rodgers and Bowles are calling easy schemes and lee is having a hard time with the easy stuff or if Bowles and Rodgers are asking too much by the type of scheme they are using.

    So far it seems to me that they can't make it any simpler for Lee and he's still having trouble.

    Not to say he can't get better though.
     
  8. Walt White

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    I had that game recorded and watched that play after that post. Adams, Lee, Maye, Davis, and everybody else have been crossed up here and there, every game. It's still a work in progress with the goal that they all act as a unit I believe. It's not just Lee. They're all trying to communicate and play together as a unit as the O comes out. It's looks like he's not sure at times, I used to think that, but he's actually trying to communicate with the other guys to verify that they're all on the same page. They're all doing that, Looking around, talking and communicating.
    I think they all reacted a little late to that play and when Lee saw what was happening he bolted and tried to anticipate Landry's route and it was easy pickings for Landry to cut back on it. I can't tell you what the call was, and everybody's role. It may not of even have been his mistake. That could've happened to anybody. Any play like that in the league where Jarvis Landry gets isolated on a LB is a good play. There's been a lot of times where Lee is on the play and you don't hear about it.
    We got Kiko Alonso similarly with Powell, I think, could've been someone else, Forte, Kerley maybe, I forget. Does that mean Kiko Alonso can't play?
    They're asking Lee to do a lot. They're not dumbing things down for him.
    All imho.
     
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    That's fair, and hence why I didn't go crazy with the post because I didn't remember the defensive coverage.

    I didn't watch a lot of Lee at Ohio State, what was he like? I have seen posts commenting on outside articles, but maybe @MeanDean can expound a little on Lee since his avatar is of Ohio state, so I assume he's a fan.

    Why can't I get his name to highlight?
     
  10. Walt White

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    Yeah, there was definite confusion with a few guys.
    I don't think Meandean was high on Lee, if I remember correctly. Mind you Lee played QB in HS and was a late comer at OSU without a lot of experience, and is fairly young. I will say that I thought Lee was having some difficulties maturing and adjusting, and appeared to be having trouble picking everything up. I don't think that anymore, for a while now.
     
  11. JethroTull

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    I feel like the Patriots and Dolphins were really targeting Lee, Adams, and Skrine in coverage situations.
     
  12. Mainejet

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    Of course they did. They knew exploiting him in pass coverage was as easy as taking candy from a baby. The NFL is a copycat league. I'm certain that every OC that faces the Jets defense knows that Lee can be beaten like a rented mule.

    Mind you, Lee was drafted specifically for his pass coverage. When you look at Lee and how incompetent he is, it's easy to start questioning Mac's competence as GM?
     
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    Mac and Toilet Bowles picked this guy ..so it's on them both

    This is two years in with Mr Lee and he showed some flashes the last game (but also got some hefty fines lmao)

    He suffers at play because a) He ain't that good b) Bowles and Kacy have no clue..that alone is deadly for most players

    Listen it's ok to disagree about players ability..but really not getting the man love Sharon gets from you guys

    Reminds me of the crush people had on Mevi$ ..3xs feh
     
  14. Mainejet

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    But once again what continues to be neglected to be discussed is the fact that he NEVER, not once has ever gotten his head turned to look for the football in pass coverage? I mean it's no wonder he gets torched in pass coverage, if you don't look back for the football, odds are you'll either be beaten or busted for pass interference.

    So when you take that into consideration, coupled with the fact that he was drafted specifically for his pass coverage, you see this is a bad fit. He does not possess the abilities that Mac obviously thought he had.
     
  15. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Quote me some man love for Lee please ?

    The only people that mention the word man love and all pro, are the people who fucking hate him.

    Giving a player a tiniest amount of praise for doing something right, does not equate to man love ffs
     
  16. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Lol I thought Mainjet had no sense of humor

    I don't hate Lee ...You think I do..frankly couldn't care less...if he plays Week in week out it's not my decision .just comment on play like everybody else here ..Also reply to guys on TGG ..To me this is all in fun..

    It's a little early but maybe you need a beer with your coffee...haha
     
  17. Mainejet

    Mainejet Well-Known Member

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    They shouldn't have to dumb things down for the fucking 20th overall pick. He's not in kindergarten. The 20th overall pick is supposed to be an immediate contributor. The Jets did NOT get that out of him and even up to now he's still way below even acceptable levels.
     
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  18. Mainejet

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    I have a good sense of humor, I just refuse to sugar coat and use kiddie gloves when describing Lee's play. For christ sake it's like the Lee apologists around here defend him like they're fucking him? Like a bunch of democrats insisting Russia colluded with Donald Trump to cheat Hillary Clinton out of her preordained win? It was a lot of the same from all of those Sanchez apologists back in the day.
     
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  19. NYJetsO12

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    Yep, along with the Darrel R and Geno S apologists

    Ya tell it like it is and guys have feinting spells smh

    We don't like Lee the player..other than the real or imagined mugging in Ohio his off the field stuff has been mild

    It's not like we are sending him hate mail ..sheesh
     
  20. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    Right. Just like every other 1st rd. pick ever. And Kindergarden... wow that's a cool fuckin story brohammer. That's accurate from you as usual.
     

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