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  1. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    You have to clarify the confusion though: is it a 4th down or 1st down now and will we have the ball to start the second half of the season?
     
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    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    The fucking lack of awareness of the game situation has been unbelievably bad. These are basic fucking things that ANY coach should understand. How much time left on the clock, what yard line are we at, what is our fucking GOAL for this possession before halftime, what is the score and game situation.

    It’s like he has no fucking clue.

    Last night the Broncos got the ball with like 30 seconds and drove for a game winning FG. We get the ball with 3 minutes and let the clock run out..

    I’ve never seen so many blunders it’s literally unbelievable.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    are you talking about before the half? We did not get the ball with 3 minutes left. We got the ball with 1:05 left. And they were doing fine with trying to score until Fields took 2 sacks. And then yeah they let the clock run out on their sorry asses but they werent moving the ball forward much
     
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    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    Yah…I think the 3 minutes was the week before
     
  5. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Stumbled into this post by Victor Green: https://x.com/victorgreen2121/status/1977766166794789148

    "Guys, I see the comments. I agree w a lot of them. I stand by AG. But after assessing his staff there’s definitely a need for changes in OC, DC."

    I get that Victor is loyal to his guy, but if you definitely need changes to both OC and DC, don't you think HC may have a problem as well? :)
     
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  6. NJJets

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    Watching Lions vs TB, you can see how much juice the Lions have. They’re playing angry because last week they had their asses handed to them. The team literally has the attitude of Campbell, it permeates. That’s what a HC can do. Glenn does not have the charisma nor the character to lead. That’s why he’s calling coaches around the league who’ve “been through this” looking for advice. It was the same with Saleh. They’re unsure, and players see right through that.
     
  7. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

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    Lions defense is better this year BTW, weird how no one followed Glenn from the Lions...
     
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  8. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Today so far the D is great, but to be fair they did concede 24 ppg before that. Either way though, Detroit is the team that always won with their offense when Glenn was there and even now. Campbell is an offensive guy too as a player and coach. It's just bizarre that we picked the coach from the best offensive team ... who coached defense there, with very mixed results to be generous. but mostly bad. Meaning he wasn't a key reason for their success. And yet we still got him as a HC.

    Unfortunately the miracle didn't happen and he could not get the offense going. And even on defense mixed results so far just like he had in Detroit: ranked #26 but trending up. Just not a good situation all around, but frankly a likely outcome given the previous accomplishments (or lack thereof).
     
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    I don’t know about you, but I’m just shocked that Tannenbaum didn’t get this right for us. Just shocked I tell you.
     
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  10. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    I thought it was a good idea Woody got 33d team involved and didn't do it himself, since he is a total imbecile, but somehow they managed to do even worse. Usually Woody selects a DC who had a great defense before, but this time he picked a DC, whose defense was just OK at best, mostly below average. Maybe now that he has Spielman on his staff, Spielman can do better without Tanny? I really don't know. But I do know that baring a miraculous turnaround that I do not see happening, we need to mayo Glenn and try again.
     
  11. FloridaMan

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    With the Jets, nothing seems like a good idea. If Glenn is still HC next year and they draft a 1st rnd QB, I hope they hire a real good QB coach to develop the draft pick.
     
  12. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    When they first hired that 33rd Team, I thought it wasn't a good idea. The head guy over there is an ex-Jets GM that probably knows how to work over Woody Johnson pretty dang well at this point, and the Jets ended up doing what they always do and took the layup with a rookie DC, disguising it behind the feeling of fan nostalgia that comes with hiring an ex-Jets player like Glenn, plus the hype from Detroit's success...

    ... and somehow the Jets walked away hiring someone from 33rd Team to advise their front office.

    Sorry, I don't know the full truth of the situation but that is a bad look, especially now.
     
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  13. FloridaMan

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    Mougey has done a decent job so far.
     
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    I like his first two picks…both guys have shown enough so far that they feel like solid players…I am less sold on the 3rd round corner and the 4th round receiver…haven’t seen enough from either guy to feel good about them…and on the free agency side Stephens looked terrible the first few games, a bit better the more recent games so maybe he will develop into a good fit here, but so far, he’s been a huge downgrade from Reed.

    I’d say Mougey has been ok … not great but also not Idzik level terrible.
     
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  15. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    He's not nearly as bad as Idzik or Mac for that matter. The Sauce and Fields contracts so far are his marginal achievements as the Jet GM. Lucky for him, he'll be graded on a curve as he is a 1st timer.
     
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    Hard to get any worse than Idzik and Mac…I think those are two of the worst GMs I’ve ever seen…can’t remember who that Browns guy was who tried to use analytics in some way and made some really horrid drafts a few years ago, but he was terrible as well…

    Would be REALLY hard to reach down to the Idzik/Mac level…even JD was bad, but a step up from those two losers.

    Mougey is still new so we’ll see how he does…now that we know he and AG are staying for year 2, this next draft will be HUGE for Mougey…he will need to come away with starting quality QB, WR, DE…all premium positions. No easy task
     
  17. NJJets

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    The long term story of his first 2 picks will be how they compare relatively to Tyler Warren and Aeronte Ersery. Those far, very early I know, Warren looks much better than Taylor, Membou looks better than Ersery. All 4 will be longtime starters in the league IMO.
     
  18. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    As the season goes on, considering it's a full wash at this point, I am keeping an eye on the later round picks. As others have stated, Mougey is a 1st timer so we'll see how he learns and grows into the position.

    To be frank, even as far as Glenn is concerned, I'm more worried about what he actually "says" to the media vs. what's on the field right now. He "REALLY" needs to clean up what he says, how informed he is etc. Hell, I'd be happier with a "no comment." Unfortunately, Bill Parcells is probably the LAST guy to work with concerning that. You can't talk to the media today the way they did back then. Bill Parcells was/is a wonderful coach but I'm not sure how successful he would have been in the loser social media era.

    Having said all that, I'm going to stop listening to what Glenn says and WATCH what I see on the field going forward. Does he clean up his clock management? Does he clean up when to/not to take the points vs. go on 4th and whatever? Does the game plan continue to evolve and get better? From a penalty standpoint, again, as I've said many times before, NO ONE can convince me that they aren't working on these types of things in practice. Unfortunately, the coaching staff can't play FOR them. You can coach all day long til' you are blue in the face but if these players can't "get it" then it's something that must be handled. Thanks to the salary cap era you simply can't go cutting and replacing every single player, in season, that can't seem to figure out how to play a clean game. So, that, too, bears watching.

    Glenn IS in over his head, right now. Let's see if he can figure out how to climb out of the deep water into something more manageable. It is VERY clear that Johnson is going to give him a long runway so, seeing as there will not be a change in ownership any time soon, I'm going to temper myself so as not to blow a full gasket or have a damn stroke.
     
  19. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Coach needs to get his head out of his behind stop butchering the final two minutes of the halves. Especially the first half.

    Tyrod threw that pick six against Tampa Bay Tyrod should've known better at the same time he shouldn't have been put in that situation. The HC should've been glad to only have been down 13-6 the way that first half went.

    Then Dallas backed up deep in their end with under 2:00 left in the half somehow not only score a TD they get 2 TDs before the half!!

    We saw what happened against Denver.

    Last week against Carolina they gave up another TD right before the half.

    How many times does it have to happen before Coach figures it out?
     
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    Engstrand was an offensive coach with the Lions for 5 years.
     

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