Trade Deadline Thread

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  1. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    I agree, I’m just going on the history I can recall.

    If they can find a guy who’s a threat on every defensive snap then edge all the way.

    Otherwise I’ll take the guy who can neutralize WR1 and live with coverage sacks.
     
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  2. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Yes, he is double teamed of course, but not any more than other DT1s: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-chip-a...efensive-linemen-who-overcome-extra-attention

    He is #26 among the DL at 66% rate. The top ones are Dex Lawrence, Leonard Williams (remember how JD traded him for a 3d round pick while still on a rookie deal, the guy is still a beast apparently) at 73%. For comparison Phillips and Briggs are double teamed at 55% rate. But in real terms, Q has total 214 pass rushes over 8 games, 27 per game roughly. That means he is double teamed 18 times per game out of 27 in average. Briggs and Phillips over the same number of rushes are double teamed 15 out of 27 times.

    So, yes of course 3 extra double teams out of 27 for Q vs just OK players Briggs/Phillips is helpful, but this does not explain why there was no sacks for Q since game 1 and not too much pressure either compared to these guys. What explains it is that Q at this point is not a massive pass rush threat but a great run defender. Which is why I think the value we got for him is outstanding, especially given age and contract.
     
  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    That’s why you generally don’t invest in defensive tackles as the center piece of the defense. It’s too easy to neutralize them with double teams. Q is really good though his elite pass rushing days seem to be behind him.
     
  4. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    To be fair before we say he can’t rush the passer anymore, they did move Quinnen Williams this year. He has played primarily 3-technique, when in the past he lined up on the nose.

    Dallas might find by moving him back that he is the same guy he’s been for 7 seasons
     
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    The wife's latest jersey's:[​IMG]
     
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    Brook! Soft Admin...2018 Friendliest Member Award Winner

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    Life of a Jets fan. I have 2 Rodgers jerseys. 1 Wilson jersey. 1 Mo Wilkerson jersey. I have to throw all of them away and get a new one. My next jersey will be 74 Mangold that's it.
     
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    I stopped buying current Jets jerseys years ago, for this exact reason, I stick with vintage!
     
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  8. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Breece is the reason (from offensive perspective) we won again. Clear team MVP so far. Good move to keep over 4th rounder.
     
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  9. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

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    Only if we keep him, if he walks after the season and we don't franchise him we should have traded him. That said I hope they resign him now, it will only help a young QB.
     
  10. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    We are not there yet. We have avenues to keep him in the offseason. It's clear the decision to keep him was correct, he was the offense today. And the defense did not look that much worse without Sauce and Q. We conceded 7 fewer points than average in spite of offense barely holding the ball and defense played most game, plus had the most QB pressures on the season.
     

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