#1 & #2- you made pretty "ballsy" statements- I'm asking you back it up with facts. Are you not capable? If you consider what transpired to be an "attack" I'd venture to say that there are 90 year old great-grandmothers in nursing homes with thicker skin than you.
Yeah the 06 draft was badly done. That draft was deep in talent, especially on O-line, so what gives taking a questionable LT that didn't have the size needed to become one of the best at his position? At best D'Brick will be a good LT, Pace he is not. We should have traded down or just taken Cutler right off the bat. We could have gotten McNeil or Justice later on. Instead of wasting picks on Clemens and Schlegel, perhaps we could have MJ Gilles to fill one of those G spots. Or maybe we should have taken Ngata so that we actually have a big NT so that the rest of our defense doesn't suck. You know how hard it is to get a freaking NT?
I don't think '06 was a terrible draft at all. The Jets opted to go with the safer pick in D'Brickashaw who at the time people thought and people still do think that D'Brick was going to become a top left tackle in this league. A solid LT is critical and the fact that they potentially had build a solid core for the offensive line.. well you have to admit that at the time, it was a good time. We don't know what D'Brickashaw will eventually become. Sure he hasn't lived up to the expectations yet... but we have to wait it out.. It could be a draft however.. if D'Brickashaw ends up being a bust.. that may be looked at with a "What the hell were we thinking?" mentality. Should Leinart and/or Cutler develop into top flight NFL quarterbacks it will go down as one of the biggest draft day disasters in Jets history. And there were plenty of those in our history. As for this years draft, it depends on the development of Revis and Harris. It's still way too early to judge it a bust. The Jets obviously thought they were quality guys to go after and they gave up the draft for them. If the Jets brass were right in their assessment then they did a magnificent job. If not, then they f'ed up. I'm not going to act like Eric Mangini is this genius, I have to see more in order to make that assessment.. i just think in order to rebuild the culture of this team we will need another couple of years in order to get things going. If Mangini is the head coach to take us to the next level, we have to let him bring in his guys to get the job the done. It's still early and we're still in the middle of a lengthy rebuilding process and as a result we can't at this time call anyone in this or last draft a 'bust' except of course for Anthony Schlegel.
Considering we passed on Jay Cutler and Leinart to draft D'Brick with the 4th pick in the draft last year I would say Tanny and Mangini basically put their entire future on a LT.
I, for one, find your avatar ridiculous. Anyone in their right mind knows you need a green shirt underneath that purple jacket. Besides, you're not wearing a bolo tie with that ensemble and the hat needs a foxtail among other things. Sheesh... utterly ridiculous to appear in public without those accessories.
The fact of the matter is that the Jets had a severe dearth in talent. They needed to address a lot of positions (CB, OL, RB, LB, and WR). These problems don't go away in an offseason or two. Mangini and Tannenbaum have done a pretty good job the last couple of seasons restocking the talent pool. There are obviously areas that still need to be addressed, partciularly around the OL and DL but given another offseason and draft, I think they will have a contender. Plus the Pats are an exceptional team, and losing to them, though difficult, does not put this team in turmoil. Oh, and neither will losing to Baltimore next week. The Jets are going to end up somewhere between 7-9 and 9-7, unfortunate, yes but remember where this team was following the '05 season.
I don't know if I blame Tangini for wanting to beef up the lines. I didn't fault the Brick-Mangold picks then and I'm not going to Monday-morning it now, as much as I pounded the table for Cutler at the time also. But if yesterday shows us anything, it's the importance of the lines. We were dominated like hell on both lines even after we tried to beef the O-line with Brick and Mangold and Bender (who I think will be fine, but who is far too inexperienced). So yeah, we could have taken Jay Cutler and then it would've probably been him yesterday with the ankle injury. Bottom line is, and I've been screaming it to the rooftops, we need big, BIG, athletic, dominating linemen. One look at the size of the Patriots tells you we need to try to duplicate that to even have a chance of doing anything against them in years to come.
I hope you arent being serious. How old are you? I guess not old enough to know what sarcasm is? My other Chad post I posted is 100% sarcasm and showing the Chad haters they dont appreicate Chad. I am one of the biggest Chad supporters on this board, hence I have an avatar of him. You need to do a better job of reading comprehension and learning what sarcasm is. With regards to Chad, we are both on the same side, I believe he is one of the few positives on this team.
The one guy I think in retrospect that would have been great was Ngata. It just seems for a coach that wants to build a 3-4, a good nose tackle is a necessity and they don't come around that often. I'm willing to be a bit patient but D'Brick just hasn't given me too many reasons to continue to be so.
Dude, have you been watching Gilles play? Not the answer. You made a point I was hoping someone would bring up. Ngata. He truly would have been the smart pick for that first #1 given the desire to move to the 3-4, especially because the man currently occupying the NT position could have been traded for good value. Aside from the Schlegel pick, it's tough to say our other picks were blown. QB is the toughest position to judge in the first 2 seasons.
I have a real problem with Robertson as our NT in the 3-4... always have. And I'm not so sure Pouha is going to be any better because I haven't seen enough of him. I'm no line expert (and I've said this many times), but I don't see us doing squat until we have a suitable NT to build around. Just ask Jonathan Vilma, who spends all his time getting knocked on his ass trying to fight off blockers instead of making plays. The whole thing puzzles me, now that this first game so glaringly exposed our weaknesses.
I agree. Mangini can talk about D'Rob all the time as a NT but I ain't buying it. I think he'd be a fantastic 3-4 DE though but sadly, I don't think we'll ever see that day. The '08 draft has some solid talent at NT so we'll see. If they don't get one this year through FA or draft, I'll be shocked and disappointed. Last year's draft was barren but making a move for big ole Ted Washington would have made sense.
The Jets chimpanzees aren't very confident of their ability to find talent by taking the best player available, they tend to trade up for the sure bust.
did anyone else hear what sean ellis said after the game? he said its impossible to get a pass rush when the gaytriots have 8 men on the los and we rush 3 or 4, even if our 4 were julius peppers, vince wilfork, tommie harris and john abraham, 4 will not beat 8, the pats deserve credit for knowing that if brady has all the time in the world and randy is running hard, no coverege scheme will work, he knew that our only chance was to get pressure on brady and he did everything in his power to negate that, although when we did have 1on1 with olinemen we did not take advantge, this one is on the coaches just as much if not more then the players, by the way vince wilfork makes dewayne robertson look like spud webb
we need the cowboys oline, they just have big ugly mean dudes, no finesse just grit, thats what we need; guys who have one goal- crackin skulls
