I see the main problem with this team right now as primarily, and foremost, the lack of a good defense. Our defense is pretty darn bad. Without that Chad will not be able to beat many of the teams we will play this year. If Chad had a defense like the Raven's SB D, we would be unstoppable and the W's would be piling up and everyone calling for Chad's head would be praising him as the re-anointment of Joe Mantana - Fact! Chad's deficiencies are magnified by 3 L's vs. 1 W and the lack of support he has around him, especially on defense. Fix the D, and we will get better by a large margin over where we are today.
His mentor, when he threw the ball threw it down the field. Parcells was a big believer in takeing shots at team with the passing game and controlling the clock with the running game. Chad brings the exact opposite skill set.
Everyone wants to blame CP, its the easy thing to do, but there is no one place you can point the finger at. Right now the Jets aren't doing anything right. Our one bright spot in years past, special teams, is not performing. Man what a difference a year makes.
You could argue that David Carr, Jay Feidler, Vinny T and any number of mediocre QB's could win with the Ravens SB D and it still wouldn't make Chad the next Joe Montana.
dude thats not fact. theres two schools of thought. your either better at running the ball. so you run to open up the pass, or vice versa. with our recievers and lack of run blocking we HAVE, i mean HAVE to pass to open up the run. thing is. chad penningtons throws are nothing more than glorified forward screens. allowing teams to play zone with 8 in the box prepared for both our run and passes. thing is, people say the strong arm is overrated, only if thats ther only asset that qb has, but clemens is also pretty mobile which also helps behind our patchy o line. the deep ball keeps defenses honest, especially with who we have at reciever you send cotch and coles deep on the same play a DC will hope both corners have perfect assistance from both Safeties. also on these shorter passes, Clemens can get the ball there faster. penningtons accuracy doesnt mean shit if your throwing 15 yards and under. if you cant deliver a ball to a target within 15 yards get the fuck out of the NFL right now. i know our line sucks but theyre not all that bad at pass blocking. its the fact our offense is now easy to read cuz we have no vertical passing game. thomas jones quote was good enough for me to realize its officially time to move on. luckily cotchery is such a good teammate. if he had an ego chad would be under the bus by now.
it's inexcusable to have a back like leon and get 40 yds rushing. lets face it thomas jones is playing like a busted record and it's not helping our offense as a unit. sure we can blame chad, cs, ol and somehow we always praise the wr but no running game equals to a losing record in the nfl.
lets throw it long every down to loosen up the defense so we can draw...teams that cannot run in the nfl, because of the oline and coaching staff, do not win. our record 1-3. our qb is one of the nfl's top rated, our running game one of the worst. our qb is not the problem to our running game like some like to think.
It's great discussion material for the board, but I want every facet of our team to get better without bias towards players. Having a dominate line on both sides of the ball is the quickest way to success though, imo.
completion % rating..etc... i didnt say the best in the league, ONE OF THE. chad does his part, the line and backs do not. i guess when we are last in the league in rushing the chad haters will blame the long ball for that as well?
Where does he rank and Td's and Yardage. Those are the ones that matter. The long ball has nothing to do with it. He can't throw decent medium range balls anymore. Did you see the pass he threw to Cotchery on the sidelines at the end of the game this week. It hung in the air for a week. The bills were waiting for both of those Int's he threw because he can not throw decent outs no matter how short they are.
What about TD passes? What about scoring in the 2 minute drill? These are more important than completion percentage and QB rating. I could give 2 shits if he can complete 400 2 yard dump passes to a back in a row. Whoop de freakin doo. When there's less than 2 minutes on the clock and we're behind we need someone who has the ability and isn't scared to throw the ball down field.
and i guess any defense is going to play clemens just like they do chad? no they are going to attack his ignorance. tds and yardage mostly come after the catch when combined. not with 10-15 yard outs although they do add a dimension to any offense. a qb is not defined by tds and yardage, if so he would throw it to his self and then run, be real!!!
How do you think defenses would play differently? What would they do? Last time I checked, the goal was to score TD's when you're on offense, not complete the highest percentage of passes possible. What do you think it is a carnival game? Do you get a giant stuffed sponge bob square pants for completing over 80%?
Im quite sure Clemens can Check down and throw 2 yard passes to the backs. If you trust the Cs then you trust they drafted a guy who is smart. What was so brilliant about throwing 30 3 yard passes last week? Please tell me what Flag Football Qb can't do that! He doesn't seem as smart when he plays against good teams!
without a doubt the receivers would get tighter coverage, but they would play with his mind with zones of all kinds like the ravens did until going to a prevent with a 20-3 lead in the 4th qtr. i guess you expect chad to go throw a block or run it in himself, after he throws the completion. we have possession receivers, we have no other choice but dink and dunk, when teams play behind them. can you fit a ball into cover2-3-4 defenses 20-30 yards down field in the nfl? neither can clemens, or chad. can you do it with a four man front giving you heat all day if you take the required 5-7 step drops it takes to complete those long passes? clemens does one thing chad doesnt.... thats tuck it and run. an injury or two away from being in chads shoes.
I don't understand. How would the DB's all of the sudden be able to cover tighter? Why wouldn't they cover tight when Chad was at QB? Do they not run these zones against Chad? Why not? If the Ravens were playing prevent, how do you explain McCairens wide open in single coverage 30+ yards down field? They weren't. He settled in, the game slowed down for him a little and he started to make plays. I expect Chad to not be a pussy and check down every god damn play, especially when time is a pressing issue. There are deeper routes open. Clemens found them and wasn't scared to throw them. Who care if I can do things an NFL QB should be able to do. Chad can't and that's what we should worry about. If you don't think Clemens can do things Penny can't with his arm then you haven't been watching the Jets this season.
if clemens arm strength is so superior and it is , wouldnt you play tighter defense with db's to take away the huge majority of passes that go short? nfl qb's league wide, throw more short and mid passes than arm testing deep ones. i dont care if you can play football or not, but if you could see it for what it is maybe you could see the difficulty, which obviously you dont. i was trying to put you in the coaches perspective , not behind center!!!
Of the 32 teams in the NFL, the Jets are ranked 19th in run blocking and 24th in pass protection. However I don't feel these are tell all stats. Pennington is ranked 5th in QB rating too. So go figure.
