Did anyone hear Tannenbaum on 1050 tonight talk about McElroy?

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  1. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    It seems that some people have forgotten just how good Pennington was in 2002. People were making comparisons to Montana, and they weren't out of line. The current version of Sanchez is not remotely close to the 2002 version of Pennington, but anyone who thinks McElroy could be is IMO absolutely crazy.
     
  2. fozzi58

    fozzi58 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely true.

    I'm being repetitive but I still don't know if Mark or Schotty is the problem. I'd still like to see this offense under Tom Moore or another capable OC before I pass full judgement on MS.
     
  3. #28Martin

    #28Martin Well-Known Member

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    Trade value? What trade value? He's a low round pick who spent the whole season on IR. His trade value is he has no trade value. Or maybe they can get a pick 7th rounder for him.
     
  4. gizmo253

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    Schotty is the ass clown in the situation. He tries too hard to complicate the damn offense...why do you think sanchez panics whenever he cant find his first read!? his plays take wayyyy too long to develop and half the time the recievers arent on the same page. Run a damn simple fucking offense with power running. Abandoning the run on sunday fucked us, nmw what anyone says the defense delt with way too many 3 and outs and Brady and Co attacked the fuck out of us with the no huddle offense.
     
  5. BookEndTackles 72&79

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    The Schotty/Sanchez debate is an interesting one. It's not all black and white where the fault lies. It's a gray area with varying shades.

    Sanchez has certainly improved but it doesn't seem to be nearly enough to raise and elevate his play as well as the offense as a whole. One of the things he still does is stare down receivers. He doesn't scan the field looking for options. He tends to make 1 or 2 reads down the field and then finds the check down. The question becomes is this because of his inability to read multiple options or is the coaching staff drilling this into him to get rid of the ball quickly?? Hard to answer that question just by watching the games. The point of going 4-5 wide and spreading the field is to find the most advantageous mismatch and exploit it. If your QB does not have the ability to scan the field and read a majority of those options to find these mismatches or is coached to rid himself of the ball quicker then he can read the progressions than going 4-5 wide isn't going to be effective. Hard to tell if it's Schotty failing to recognize this or if it's Sanchez' inability to execute

    His pocket presence and recognition of where the rush is coming from is spotty. A couple of those sacks and pressures vs. the Pats could have been avoided had he merely stepped up or sidestepped in the pocket instead of stepping backwards. Sometimes the tackles should just let that outside rusher go wide and ride him behind the QB but Sanchez always tends to step back instead of up. Is he being coached up to get better here or is he simply flustered under pressure??? Again, hard to say.

    As far as audibles and changing plays to get into the right one it is hard for us as fans to see that and maybe he has done a good job there but it is simply tough to tell without being on the inside. However, I will say that the game management mistake he made by calling the timeout is INEXCUSABLE for ANY quarterback. That simply is a mental error in judgement and a lack of awareness of the situation which may explain some his turnovers on 1st down when you DON'T need to take a chance and you can live to fight another day. (Exhibit A: Oakland INT in the end zone). That can tell you alot about where is head is. If he is capable of making a mistake like that then it makes me wonder what other mistakes is he making in recognizing situations, coverages, rushers, etc. Not a good sign and it reflects very poorly on Sanchez.
     
  6. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    :rofl:eek:oooohhhhhh!!!!!!!
     
  7. Jtuds

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    Mark and Greg should compete for the starting job next year. I was thinking about whether or not Sanchez will get a contract extension and at this point it has to be questionable. Maybe they'll offer a low cost, incentive laden deal that will go for 2 or 3 years...but at this point I don't how Tannenbaum could lock in to anything of great value or long term.

    As over-hyped as the QB position is, there is no doubt that in some situations, the quarterback has to carry the team. Maybe just for one drive, maybe a quarter, and in rare cases, a whole game. Mark has yet to show that he can do that.
     
  8. LWC611

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    Good Post!
     
  9. TheGreenCantona

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    I do notthink sanchez is ggod enough to lead a team to a superbowl win, but he has an infite higher probability than McElroy.
     
  10. sackexchange

    sackexchange Well-Known Member

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    At this point, I would say that Sanchez needs to take a major step forward in Year 4 to justify a contract extension. Right now, he is no better than most journeyman QB's who could be signed on the cheap via Free Agency. There may be another Matt Schaub out there on some team's bench who could come in and outperform Sanchez.

    I really hope I'm wrong and I hope he's held back by a weak O-Line and terrible playcalling but I think it's more than that.
     
  11. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    I don't want to build McElroy up but he's the next Tom Brady. Guaranteed.
     
  12. sackexchange

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    I agree. The similarities are endless.
     
  13. Jets n Boys

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    McElroy = Jets version of Tom Brady....He will bring us 28 SB rings!
     
  14. Brunell's Debt

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    Exactly, what were people expecting him to say?

    "We're very impressed with Kerley, and we think that Wilkerson will be a New York Jet for a long time. I wish I could get that McElroy pick back though, he throws like a girl and is trash without Julio Jones."

    Somehow I suspect that the fans who expect the Jets to replace Sanchez with McElroy are the same fans who thought Brett Ratliff was our QB of the future.
     
  15. bobby2times

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    As much as I hate Sanchez, I'd probably just stop watching Jets games if I had to watch noodle arm 2.0.
     

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