mario williams

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  1. jtrain

    jtrain Active Member

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    I heard that mario williams ran a 4.43. do you think we can draft him and use him in a 3-4/4-3 scheme.
     
  2. Jake

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    He'd be an OLB in the 3-4. I don't want to use #4 on him though. I don't want any defensive players taken in the first 2 rounds unless they are a Nose Tackle.

    Great player, but we have bigger fish to fry.
     
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    I think you are confusing Mario's 40 time with Manny Lawson's time. He's the other NC State DE. mario ran a 4.76 if I'm not mistaken which is a great time for a guy almost 300lbs.
     
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    Well if he is wrong, its not his fault. They had it on ESPN that williams ran a 4.43 40. I dont even know what to say about somehting liek that.
     
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    We all know how important it is to pressure the Quarterback so drafting Williams wouldn't be a bad idea at all especially since we may have another 1st round pick with Abe gone. The only question I would have is how he would fit in on a 3-4.
     
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    Why would we want to get rid of Abe and get this guy if Abe is the proven player and Mario will be wanting the same amount of money because of his draft status?? It would be smarter to give Abe the contract he wants than to draft Williams.
     
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    Where does it say that on ESPN? I just looked on ESPN and they actually have his time at 4.66. I just know I saw him run 4.76 on the scouting combine coverage on the NFL network. So he must've run 4.66 on another run there. But either way that's an amazing time for a guy 6'7" and 295 lbs as I said.

    here's the quote from ESPN:

    "Defensive end Mario Williams is a little lost in the spotlight of top prospects such as Leinart, Young and Bush, but he shouldn't be. As much as teams talk about trading up for quarterbacks, what about moving up for Williams? Super Mario made that more likely with his combine workouts. Even more impressive, it wasn't necessary for him to work out. Listed at 6-7 and 295 pounds, he ran a 4.66 40. That's Julius Peppers territory. Williams has the dominating body that can fit into a 3-4 or a 4-3. He would seem to be a perfect fit for the Green Bay Packers with the fifth pick, but other teams might try to move higher than that to get him."
     
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    If we are indeed switching to a 3-4 we need a bigger body than Abe at DE. Abe can't play DE in a 3-4 and it's questionable if he can play OLB in a 3-4 either. Abe is a pass rushing DE for a 4-3. I love Abe but apart from his past injury problems, he is also inconsistent. His sacks come in bunches. But all that aside you can't change the undeniable fact that he no longer wants to be here. The damage is done. It's time for him to move on.
     
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    if u go to espn.com they mention williams runing a 4.43 in a poll
     
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    is it possible to draft DE williams and trade D-rob for a first round pick. Draft Williams and Vernon davis at 4 and 9 and the draft pick we get for D-Rob we use it and get the RT Winston Justice from USC. We can trade D ROB to the falcons fo their pick
     
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    :eek:hmy: ... slowly float back to earth...
     
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    Mario is 6'6 285 who ran a 4.4 something.

    And he doesnt fit ina 3-4 yall crazy.

    He is about ellis size.. Hes like a bigger julias peppers. Almost.

    He would be excellent in a 4-3 or 3-4.
     
  13. jtrain

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    this guy can be used as a 3-4 linebacker. with that speed and height
     
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    no way is he used as a LB.. 6'7 285 with 4.7 speed?? thats the size and power teams pay 15 million dollar signing bonuses to wreak having as a DE, ala freeney, peppers style...
     
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    For one thing Williams' upside is unlimited, for another he's years younger than Abraham, for similar money (I actually think the rookie will be cheaper overall) you get a kid with 10 years ahead of him instead of a player with about 5 and an injury history that would concern anyone.
     
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    I still think we draft Mario Williams or trade down. Remember Belichek's first two picks with the Pats were Richard Seymour and Matt Light. Building up a strong front 7 on defense starting with the 3 or 4 lineman along with a smart technical offensive line are the keys to establishing a good consistent team.
     
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    "no way is he used as a LB.. 6'7 285 with 4.7 speed?? thats the size and power teams pay 15 million dollar signing bonuses to wreak having as a DE, ala freeney, peppers style..."

    first of all he runs a 4.43 not a 4.7 and this guy can play in a 3-4 o line backer spot. We have d rob Ngata ellis at the three then Williams Vilma Barton and Carpenter at the four. I don't want this to happen I want Vernon davis and D'brick but what if we only draft defense. that front 7 would be a nightmare
     
  18. hazmat

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    Ok Mario Williams is a Defensive End not a linebacker. No team would ever take a dominating pass rusher who can play in a 3-4 or 4-3 and make him a linebacker who has to cover receivers. Jason Taylor can not play end in a 3-4 so thats why he played linebacker this year. Mario Williams did not run a 4.43 40. If he did he would be the first pick because that's unheard of.
     
  19. jtrain

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    he did run a 4.43. go
    to espn.com then click on nfl and look at the poll question
     
  20. bigalxc

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    that was Manny Lawson Williams teammate at NC State
     

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