My favorite thing about this front office

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  1. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    It's got to be the fact that nothing is ever leaked. We became accustomed to finding out about plans far in advance along w every other NFL team.

    We lost odb bc we leaked our intent to pick him leading up to the draft allowing the Giants to jump up. It just seemed at every turn they shot themselves in the foot. Which btw I think sent the whole draft last year into a tailspin mostly bc Idzik couldn't adjust (shocker)

    This front office is a tight ship. We rarely know what they are doing until a contact comes into play. And really we had no clue who the team really wanted heading into the draft.

    This is a huge plus to me. It allows the team to fufill their plans without having to fight unnecessary competition to achieve them via the team showing their hand.

    I only posted this as a thread bc this used to drive me bonkers!!!


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    I thought this was the best draft this organization has had since the '07 draft that yielded Revis & Harris and possibly since the 2000 draft (Ellis/Abraham/Pennington/Coles) since the 07 draft only consisted of 4 picks total.

    To come away with best defensive player in the draft and possibly the very best player in the draft, a deep threat receiver that has for some reason been so difficult for this organization to land for years, an edge rusher that has always been underrated and overachieved thus far in his career in the 3rd round is very impressive.
     
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    The draft was handled as if it wasn't the first time Mac had done it. It through him a curveball--Williams being available--but he handled it well, by selecting him. That said, I feel Mac's most notable attribute is his activity. He stocked the team in free agency, which made the draft somewhat of a luxury. Hell, the difference in the team from the end of season until the draft is like night and day: saw the weakness and acted. Didn't sit around hoping. Didn't expect not to pay. Doesn't have a 5-year plan. He sees what he needs and acts on those needs.

    One thing though: the 2nd and 3rd round draft picks have to perform. The Jets have a long history of underperforming 2nd round picks. So, Devon Smith has a huge stigma to overcome. And, really, as much as I want to root for Mauldin, I still have to see something from him. But the picks seem in line with what you'd want: areas of need addressed without reaching.

    Maccagnan has been the consummate professional and that is in stark contrast to what I'm used to seeing from our team.
     
  5. Clark Gaines

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    The difference between the Jets now and then is like the difference between a traveling carnival and Six Flags America.

    I mean, seriously, Mac has brought in REAL talent. On the OL alone, we see he's brought in athletic beef. (well, at least I hope it is).

    For the last couple of years, we've had so much of a talent deficiency that we couldn't even get FG blocked up. We lost TWO games to NE because we couldn't get a long-range FG past the line of scrimmage. Really, that's criminal.

    For the last couple of years, we've had a WR corps that many NCAA teams would eschew. How is that possible? We had 40 million in cap room and no secondary, a weak OL, and ONE WR of note!!

    But we DID have our carnival barker. And I loved him. But, man, the talent level of the Jets since 2010 has been abysmal. And Mac seems to have changed that virtually overnight.

    Hooray!!!
     
  6. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Like everything you said but have to say Maacbowles do have 5 year plan. They are very aware of contracts coming due for example.
     
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    I agree with the overall sentiment. But I cant agree with other teams drafting players just because past regimes made it known that we had interest in them.

    In Beckham's case there was very little chance he was lasting to where we were picking. Its not like the Giants didnt need a WR last offseason either. Also cant imagine a team, even division rivals, basing a draft around blocking another team from a player they are coveting.

    As for this year it was clear that Mac felt he had zero chance in being able to draft Williams. Nobody had him falling to us. I thinking either Fowler or Cooper were guys that we were targeting and when they were gone Mac tried to trade back for possibly Peat or Gurley. When that didnt happen selecting Williams became easy.

    If Williams turns into a bust no one is going to smash Mac for it. The same way they really shouldn't be praising him for it right now. He made the only move he could make.

    IMO he's going to be graded on his other picks.
     
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    Sure, but what I meant was Idzik seemed to think that he had years to show improvement. Mac has acted as if he has a mandate to win now while keeping in mind the near and long-term future.
     
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    I never said anywhere in my post that teams took players bc we had interest. But they knew exactly when and where to jump ahead to get the guy they liked. Giving them a distinct advantage.

    If they like a guy yet know we also do they'll know to make moves to get ahead. If they don't they have to make more uncertain calculations.

    This isn't about whether players bust or not it's not the point.


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    Wasn't this also said in Izdik first year? About the leaks?
     
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    Same shit used to be said about idzik. The constant slurping of a front office who's team we haven't seen play a down of football is getting to be a bit much.
     
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    The topic here is pretty much implying that our past GMs made our pre-draft plans so known that we over played our hand and lost out on better players.

    I'm not so sure about that.

    And the Giants never jumped ahead of anyone. They had a higher pick than we did and took their guy. I'm sure it's been like that more times then not in cases of teams picking before us.
     
  13. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    Ok


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    Giants picked at 12 we picked at 18. Giants didn't jump up and they didn't pick him solely because the Jets wanted him but BC it fit a need and was their BPA. The statement you made is ridiculous.
     
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    Macc is the next Ron Wolf
     
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    Lol yes
     
  17. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    Ok internet jets fans let's argue for the sake of it.... The point still stands and is quite valid...

    I bet if I said jets jerseys are green there would be ppl contesting the statement stating its hunter green which in the history of the color wheel is related to yellow
     
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    So far so good.

    Like a breath of fresh air.

    The circus has moved to Buffalo.

    Good riddance!
     
  19. BZanZ

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    Im pretty sure the same thing happened with Tavon Austin, although that turned into a blessing since we got sheldon instead(if we drafted austin at 9 we probably would have drafted a CB at 13 since revis) but still.
     
  20. LongIslandBlitz

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    Notice how Manish Metha seems to have dissapeared all together lately.He doesn't have anymore sources that still work in that building Rex,Pettine, whoever
     
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