Did you guys just say that Mahomes and Allen (both required more than what we will have to give up) are weak examples? LOL. OK.
Buffalo traded 2 2nds to move up for Allen. It would take more to get the no 1 overall pick in the draft. ill be very disappointed if the Jets trade away a 1st round pick for Mendoza
The Raiders are not trading #1 overall. We are talking about possibly from #3 to #2 with the Giants for Moore. Bills gave up two seconds for Allen at 7, and Chiefs 1st and a 3d to move up into top 10 for Mahomes. Principled organizations do trade up into top 10 when they like someone and give up good capital too. That's just a fact whether you want to admit it or not.
People need to get away from thinking that you need to make a choice between getting a QB in 2026 and 2027. The Jets need to get (at least) one each year until they get one that works. What's the worst that could happen - they end up with two good ones at the same time?
Yup. Now if he had said he reads defenses better than anybody in the last ten drafts, I might sit up and take notice. We can talk about his leadership abilities much later.
I would give my lucky dime if it only cost the Jets an additional 1st rounder to get Mendoza to solve the decades long void for this franchise at the most important position on the field. That would be the bargain of the century. However it's a moot point as he's not getting past Brady and the Raiders at 1.
Even a Ricky Williams type haul wouldn't get it done. The fucking Raiders will win a SB before the Jets. Pukeworthy.
Why would they require less than what we’d have to give up? Why are the Giants giving away #2 to us for the little you’re alleging we will need to give up? Trading up to 7 and 10 is much different than trading up to 2. That’s why they’re weak examples. I think the Giants will hunt at least an additional first and second like what the Browns got for Travis Hunter if not more. Especially in a 2 QB draft.
The worst that could happen is that we might have to trade picks to get a bad QB. More options in '27 for QB than there are in '26 which actually works for the Jets. Unless we're willing to settle on a QB for the sake of drafting one. Its Mendoza, Moore (IF he declares) or a reach. '27 should have more options. The odds are more in the Jets favor in '27 and knowing this team's history, we need all the luck we can get. Since we're not getting Mendoza, why settle for just a QB? More prudent to use these picks in '26 to flesh out the roster with talent. We actually need talent more than we need a QB. At least with talent on the roster a marginal Vet QB can come in and run the offense while the defense (hopefully with a real DC), can actually play decently. Draft the QB after the roster rebuild is at least started. We have the cash and cap room for the upgrade.
It sounds like Trinidad Chambliss has been having a great year, but this latest game has really turned heads. I'll have to go back and look but curious if anyone has watched him much this year and if there are opinions on how his game translates to the NFL. As always, I'm looking for processing ability, decision making, and accuracy
I watched some of the Michigan-Texas game on New Year's Eve. I had no idea Arch had those kind of wheels on him. Arch is the dream QB for the Jets a Manning. Looks like he's built for the modern game.
I’be watched a bunch of him. His best quality is that he does not make bad decisions and that goes further than turnovers - he doesn’t take sacks or allow many negative plays. The big negatives to him are his height, although I don’t think it’s that big of a deal if he comes in over 6’0” or more. He also has only played one year at the FBS level and plays in a very QB friendly offense that relies on pace and quick reads to wear defenses down. Definitely a good enough athlete with a good enough arm IMO. He would benefit a lot from another year of eligibility in college. He’s lobbying for it.
Thanks for the breakdown. Sounds like another one for the class of 27'! I keep wanting to find a Day 2 or early Day 3 guy we can roll the dice on if we miss out on Mendoza and Moore and it's increasingly scarce. Maybe the play really will be to build the roster and roll with better veteran QBs next year. A vet backup, a younger guy with upside (like a Malik Willis), and a later pick. Uninspiring, but if we get a guy who can run Engstrand's offense, the team could feel a lot different
Yeah he's got sick wheels. Honestly, in the 2 seasons that I've watched him now, that looks to be the strongest part of his game at this point. And we all know that won't work as his primary skill at the next level or his career will be over early. So next season I really want to see Arch ball out in terms of consistency all season long when it comes to accuracy, quick reads, quick release, and moving in the pocket. I just want to see him string along many good games in a row. He seemed to start doing that this season.
Wait what Maybe you were young or can’t remember well but the Saints gave their entire draft for Ricky Williams. It was seen at the time, and now in retrospect, as a stupid move. And Ricky Williams was way more accomplished than Fernando Mendoza
The point was the Raiders are taking Mendoza. And the offer you proposed wouldn't even be close to getting it done in the event that they were actually looking to shop the pick, but they are not so it's a moot point.
I didn’t say they’d accept 2 2nd round picks. I was responding to a poster who brought up the Josh Allen trade up. That’s what it took to get Allen Raiders might take Moore anyway, Mendoza is not a lock at no 1
I have no idea what you're talking about regarding 2nd round picks. You must be confusing me with someone else. I was merely responding to your post about giving up a 1st for Mendoza. It would take a lot more to get that done for him and the Raiders are not gonna shop the pick so it doesn't matter.
