The draft value chart, which seems to still be a pretty good indicator. shows 2600 points for number two and 2200 for number three. The four hundred point difference is the value of pick number fifty in the second round. Now add the premium teams will demand from a GM looking for wat they think will be a future FQB.
Our second should be 34th. Could be enough of a premium. Not sure if we need to add some change. But I don't think we will need a 1st rounder to move up one spot.
Some of you seem to be getting too caught up in hypothetical scenarios that just are not very reality based. At this point and with a regime that will already be 1 dreadful season in the hole heading into this offseason there is no question these guys are taking a "resetting the timeline" QB in the 1st round. Whether that's overall pick 2/3 and/or one of Moore/Simpson/whoever...Woody Johnson is not trading down or out of that headline QB pick. It doesn't matter what the Chiefs or the BIlls or whoever has done before us either. We are talking completely different DNA makeups there.
I keep seeing speculation that Mateer is going back to OU. Man this QB draft beyond Mendoza is looking worse by the day. Mougey better be ready to get creative on the FA or trade market
I only listed a few as an example to someone who said we have nothing. But yeah, under Glenn, a lot of people who did well before, including team MVP Sherwood, whom he resigned to a large contract, look awful. You can make a joke out of it to brush it off, but that's just a fact. DEs, who you say do not exist, made pro bowl and another had double digit sacks under Bob. Which we why we need a new coach. And a QB.
Until you retire from the board, hopefully years away, can you please only refer to Sherwood as Team MVP Sherwood? And my bad I read your DE comment wrong. It's accepted, but most of the media and most of the fans, that the Jets have barely any talent. This was before a snap was taken.
We already tried that last offseason with Fields. They ain't going to repackage that up as a second year plan. When i spent all last offseason screaming bloody murder about F'ing up the OC hire..wanting to avoid THIS EXACT current scenario was always heavily baked into the surrounding concern cake. These Jets are now all but pot committed to drafting a QB #1 overall. If that means we have to make a Daniel Jones level reach to get there...we are making that reach. The window dressing factor will trump all at this point.
The value difference between 34 and 50 is another 120 points which is the value of a low third rounder. Why are people so anxious to give so much away on a roll of the dice?
We can discuss more of that MVP bit after you watch enough all 22 podcasts! But no, it was not accepted the roster was barren. The betting line ended at 6.5 games before the year started. We will probably end up winning less than half of that, and even that with historically bad SRS.
for the 800th time. The betting lines are irrelevant in this context. They are set to encouraging betting. They are not an informed analysis on how talented, or not, a team is
Also, if you're following the Jets the under was a no brainer. I remember the win line before the season started. I can't vote bets like that in my state. The only way the jets win more than 6 games was if fields panned out.
Shitty… it’s a good decision for him. He would actually make more money in college this year than if he was a second round pick I believe
Initial betting line, perhaps, is an educated guess. But the final betting line is after the line moves as money comes in from the fans and the pro betters as well. The book makers then make an adjustment. Ultimately they want to be right in the middle, because that what guarantees them to make money. In the end it is a reflection of what the public who invested thinks about an event. I really don't know why you would conclude that the betting lines are irrelevant, but if you have some literature about how this business works and why you think it is irrelevant, share it, I would love to read and understand more. But putting and keeping a random or way off line makes no sense just by applying basic logic, because they can lose a lot of money that way, which is not a good business. In this case, say almost everyone thought the Jets roster stinks and they would win 3-5 games, and the line is 6.5. Then vast majority of the people will bet under, and the house will be absolutely fucked, because they are going to have to pay these people. They need about the same money over and under, and they will guarantee the profit, because the winners will basically get paid by the losers, and they will get their usual cut from every dollar invested. https://www.oddsshark.com/sports-betting/what-line-moves-can-tell-us
All betting lines really are are a consensus opinion of people willing to put money at stake. They're definitely informative. You're not exactly wrong that they're meant to encourage betting, but they're done so in order to reach a consensus guess (~equal money on each side) among people who feel they know enough to put money at stake. Betting lines are a lot more of an informed guess than any kind of general poll from people without anything at stake if they're wrong.
I’ve seen some dumb conversations here but this one just is brutal… When talking about future bets, especially over/under, the books need to split betters. The ONLY way the books lose is if everyone bets on one side of the line and they are correct. So they avoid that possibility Now the Jets have finished with less than 3 wins like twice in the 65 year history of the franchise. It’s rare. even rarer now that there are 17 games. Knowing this, the books would never put that figure at 3 wins because everyone with a smart phone would bet the over. it’s a risk they are not going to take, the Jets being good or bad is irrelevant to them. There is no “consensus” or “informed thought” on the quality of team. It’s only about how the books can make money
Mateer is heading back to OU it looks like unfortunately…. Hawkins jr his back up just went into the portal. He’s a good bet for the Heisman next year Kids are staying in school with the nil money. It’s actually a really good thing. Moore should do the same. Simpson too but I think they both come out. Mendoza will go #1 so he’s definitely declaring
Ya it looks like a done deal…. Fuck! It’s a great move for him but it sucks for us. The QB market is really really thin…. This team is going to be brutal next season with a lame duck coach and either a really raw rookie or a washed vet… We probably will be lucky to get 2 wins next season
It might not be a bad thing honestly. We have 3 first rounders next year and some great prospects coming out. With Glenn we are not going anywhere anyway.
Ya true… the only positive thing about keeping Glenn is that we are the favourites to get #1 next year in a really deep class. 27’ is projected to be one of the best draft classes in a long time….
