So you are saying your primary goal here isn't to defend Glenn bc you like him as a coach, but instead to defend to decision of the inept owner? Got it.
Again this isn't really valid because no one is defending the owner. You have two choices: piss and moan on the internet and get mad at something you can't control or realize you can't control it and move on with discussion about what could be rather than what isn't and won't be. The original post I made here sums up exactly how I feel. At no point did I say I was scared to fire Glenn or that he's been great or that he's even been good. So your reaction to it is confusing.
The fun thing about these polls is you can see who everyone voted for. JackBowers is a true Glenn believer. You on the other hand, haven't cast a vote. You are literally endlessly posting about a poll that you don't even have the balls to vote for. Pretty weird.
What's weird is getting mad at a stranger on the internet because they didn't vote in a fucking poll and instead basically wrote a 5 paragraph essay explaining their thoughts. I'll do it just for you though, so you can move on in peace.
First of all, that wasnt your original premise. Your point was that they wouldnt start, now you're changing it up once its all laid out. Second, that argument is invalid as you can say that about anything. What's the point of the bills having the better rb and qb if they have an oline of backups, etc? Just admit its more than the players.
Lol this made me laugh in real life. I appreciate it. I've lost track how many times I said I don't care if he gets fired i just think the roster is so bad I can't deem Glenn a failed HC and he should get another year because of that and how bad firing another HC is for the franchise. A lot of folks have openly admitted they never wanted him and wanted him fired since week 1, but I'm blindly biased.
I don't know guys, but these names there - we should not be losing by 27, there is no way. Yeah, they had Mitch, but still, we should not be this bad. The schemes should not be laughed at by the commentators. Do we have to accept it, I guess pretty soon, Monday is still not over, perhaps Woody didn't wake up yet.
"Hey guys the perfect choice wasn't given for me to vote in this fan site poll, so let me write a 500 word essay about me, myself, and I!" LMFAO some of the weirdest shit i've ever seen on here.
A guy named GoldenShowers who can't read and yells at people for not voting in a poll calling other people weird is why the internet exists.
First of all, my premise remains. They would start. Second, I admitted it was more than the players in this very thread. At least your whiff involved way less typing this time.
You bring up a lot of good points. On the QB situation, you said it yourself, we went into the season with a bottom tier/borderline starter and a top back up. Now just ask yourself in what situation that QB combo has ever produced good results for any team? I think the reason for optimism with Fields was that there was some hope he could turn it around and elevate his play to mid-tier QB status, obviously that didn't happen. I would disagree that Fields was OK last year. He was very similar to what he was this year, a bottom 5 starting QB in the NFL. PFF had him graded as the 27th best QB in 2024, and the 32nd best in 2025. When limiting the field to QBs with 100+ snaps, his EPA of -18.01 in 2025 put him at 36th for NFL QBs and his EPA of 5.19 had him at 20th last year. If your argument is those metrics I listed put him in the "OK bucket", then I can understand it but I would still disagree with it. I will agree that he was better in Pittsburgh last year than he was for us this year which is why there was some optimism with bringing him in. The Fields signing was a miss, no question about it, but it made sense for us at the time. You're right on Brady Cook too, he wouldn't have been the starter these last 5 weeks if we weren't 3-9 heading into the Miami game. Is our W/L or any of these other stats everyone seems to want to bring up any different right now if we decide to stick with Fields or Tyrod? We'll never know. I think we maybe could've won 1 or 2 of these last 5, but we might have had the same record. At the very least, we probably don't get blown out every game like we did. That didn't happen though, they went full tank and started a rookie UDFA QB for over a month. On his want to win now. Of course he does, as I said in my previous post, every single person in any NFL organization wants to win now. That would've been a terrible look for Glenn if he took the podium at the combine and said, "I'm excited to be here. We're probably going to stink this year but maybe next year or definitely the year after that, we'll be competitive." We would've eviscerated him and rightfully so. Finally, you're right that this season was a spectacular and historic failure. I think towards the end that was somewhat by design considering who was starting at QB and on defense but it was also probably to see if any of these fringe roster guys actually deserve a spot on the team next year (most of them don't). However, I'm sure at the beginning of the year they felt they could win games. Then they started 0-7 and got 2 incredible offers for 2 of their best players, so they decided to pivot, and now we have a ton of assets to build this team up. I don't think Woody lets those trades happen and Glenn doesn't make those trades unless they've had conversations about Glenn getting multiple years. So right or wrong, it would appear as of now that he's coming back at least for one more year. Hopefully he can prove most of this fanbase wrong about him and we should all be hoping that happens.
I dont care anywhere near enough about such a dumb fucking argument. The Jets have a ballboy throwing the ball to receivers that wouldn't play on most teams including the Bills. That precludes you from putting up points in almost any scenario. Tack on a terrible defense playing guys off their own and other teams practice squads and it's a recipe for disaster.
Lol changing it again huh. Ok, if its all on the players then, tell me how JJ, Phillips, Briggs, Quincy and Sherwood get dominated in the run game by an oline made of tylan grable, alec anderson, sedrick van pran granger, o'cyrus torrence and ryan van demark, with a 2nd and 3rd string running back? Ray Davis rushed for more yards yesterday than the entire season combined. Clearly the jets players there are better than the bills players they went up against, so how then is it not coaching?
Why do you keep insisting I'm changing what I'm saying? I've said the same thing every time. As usual, you're not worth the keystrokes. Happy trolling.
The only thing I FULLY disagree with is that bolded part. IF they decide that this year was exactly what they were looking for, keep Glenn on board and fucking fire that guy mid-season next year, I will personally drive from the West coast to the East coast and bitch slap Johnson. You can write that down. And I'll do it if I can get close enough. IF this season was what they wanted and expected then that fucker better get ALL of 2026 to ride or die baby. Because, if they fire this fucker mid-season next year then he should be fired right now as of yesterday. That is the LAST I'll say on this. So done talking about Aaron Glenn and any sort of indictment on him as a coach. There have been teams in the league who have had a LOT worse rosters that didn't look like this shit.
Personally I love the conversation…as long as it’s focused on the team and the games and not on personal attacks, I love having the back and forth. For me, I see ZERO value in keeping Glenn. I don’t think firing a coach after one year is such a crazy thing that will negatively reflect on the organization, not these days anymore. Back in the 1980s? Maybe. Not now. Teams do it all the time, and in fact teams like NE and Jac just literally proved it to be a wise decision. Houston did it two years in a row until they got DeMeco. Shit, the Raiders just fired a HoF coach in Pete after one year. This is today’s NFL…right or wrong, owners are more impatient than ever to win. So keeping Glenn for the sake of keeping him has no credit. I also see no merit in holding the poor roster up as an excuse, because (a) he took players that looked MUCH better before and made them unplayable in some cases, but almost all of them declined…hard to find a player who did better this year than last, and certainly not on defense, his supposed expertise, and (b) while the bad QB was a huge part of why our offense sucked so bad, I give no excuse because Fields was his fucking choice, and Tyrod looked worse than he did in the past, which was mediocre anyway. But the point is, we can all acknowledge that this roster is not good, no argument there, so I’m not looking at this season as a total abomination and waste because we only won 3 games. I’m looking at it as a waste because of how we played and how we looked all year, and sure here at the end we were tanking and playing scrubs, which is fine, but that wasn’t the case in September or October…we looked terrible before this tank job. No NFL team has ever gone a full year with no interceptions right? How does that happen when our HC is a former DB and supposed defensive guy? It’s crazy. Our turnover differential was shit. Our points and yardage differentials were shit. The only bright spot this year was our special teams. That’s it. This was a pathetic performance all around. I just don’t see any reason to waste another season with this guy when the chances of him figuring it out and turning this around are pretty damn slim, and I certainly don’t think using the “he deserves another year” or “well the roster is so bad that NO coach would win with this team” excuses hold any validity. No one “deserves” anything in this league…it has to be earned. And sure, no coach would win with this roster is probably true, but I’m not looking at wins, I’m looking at how we’ve played, and that’s been shit. Don’t know how many wins a guy like Parcells would have pulled out of this roster, probably not many, but probably more than 3, but sure as shit we wouldn’t have looked so bad doing it. Of course there was no Parcells out there as an option for us, but there WAS a McCarthy, who I also believe would have done a much better job. Anyway, my point of view is that AG should be fired today. He showed NOTHING to give me any hope, let alone confidence, that he knows what he’s doing and can turn this around. NOTHING. Would rather fire him and move on to the next guy
