Minshew was decent in Jacksonville, ok in Indianapolis and pretty shitty the last couple years even in limited time. I think the league has passed him by. He never had much of a strong arm but there’s such little upside there.
Well said, which does leave us back to.... What in the heck do they do? Got to be honest, I can't remember a time where the QB position was THIS bad, both in FA and the draft.
Trubisky probably has the least amount of long term damage level of suck that the team needs in the short term * Id prefer Brissett
My bad I thought he had 1 more year. He might be the better choice for us if we need QB for a couple years and isn't ass like Fields was
I don’t love the guy, but I don’t see the value in paying Cousins a boatload of money either. We’re tracking to draft a QB in 2027. Whoever is our QB this year should be someone cheap with potential upside. The problem as others have pointed out is our coach is on the hotseat, so I see him pushing for a QB that can win some games now at the expense of our future.
Yeah, on the same page. HELL NO to Murray or Cousins. To answer your question, yes I was definitely on the Fire Glenn train…in fact, I was actually on the Let’s NOT hire Glenn to begin with trend. My reasoning for that was that we have desperately needed to improve our offense, and hiring yet another rookie DC was absolutely NOT the answer to any of our needs. Woody has done the same thing over and over and over and here we are with a 15 year playoff drought. So I hated the fire from the jump. And that’s even WITH loving Glenn as a player for us. I just thought it was the wrong move strategically for us, and then on the specific level, I just didn’t think Glenn was all that great of a DC anyway…Detroit won with offense not defense but Woody is too stupid to see any of it. I also hate the idea of both GM and HC reporting to Woody independently…that absolutely does NOT align goals, and in fact, if things go sour (like they do so often for us), then it actually creates an adversarial relationship because it encourages each guy to blame the other guy so save his job (GM: I got great players…the coaching sucks. HC: I can’t win with this roster, we need better players). I don’t think this works well regardless of who the owner is, but it FOR SURE doesn’t work at all when the owner is a clueless imbecile like Woody who not only doesn’t know squat fucking shit about football, but he also doesn’t know people or talent…he’s never run a company or built one so he doesn’t know how to tell the morons from the geniuses…it’s clear when you just look at his hiring history. To me, from an organization standpoint, we’d need to find one guy who knows what he’s doing to run the show. It’s not Woody. Problem is, there aren’t a lot of clear cut options there…but it can be like a President to Football Operations (kind of like a Chief Operating Officer at a company…someone who knows pretty much all the facets of the business and has oversight over most of it). It can be the GM if he’s strong enough. But needs to be somebody other than Woody. The fact that Woody has been serving in this role, hiring and firing coaches, conducting searches wily nilly with crap like Korn Ferry, Charley Casserly, etc. is why we are in the never ending mess we’re stuck in. But we can’t do anything about that. I wish we’d have fired Glenn, and I would have tried to interview any of McCarthy, Kingsbury, Kubiak, Stefanski, etc. ANY of them I’d have preferred over what we have in Glenn. Yes, many had better options, so it’d have had to be a hard sell, using all those picks and a lot of money and guaranteed money at that, and possibly a lot of power in the building. Would have been worth it. But at this point, here we are. I can bitch and moan and complain on this board, but it doesn’t change anything. Going from here, I am ok with the changes AG has made to the coaching staff…I didn’t necessarily think Tanner needed to be fired, but Reich is a good fallback and may actually be a better OC THIS year than Tanner would have been. Long term who knows, but I think Reich was maybe better situated right now. How to align the goals, I don’t know that you really can for now…AG is going to be balls out to get some wins otherwise he knows he won’t last, so not much we can do…I hope Mougey holds the line on making stupid deals (i.e. NO Murray. NO Cousins). We’ll see. But if AG shits the bed again and gets fired, I’d probably let Mougey lead the search and have the next HC report to him, unless we somehow get a really prominent coach who would probably not do that…like the Giants got Harbaugh…if you get a guy like that, not sure I’d have him report to a 3rd year GM…no idea who that would be, but say a Tomlin type…
Give Cousins a bag for 2 years. Draft a QB this year or next year. He's the best available option. Yeah, he played us years ago but get over it. What's done is done and he would be the best option for us to win games. I think that's supposed to be the goal. Not sure if the NYJ understand that though.
More like who is the least garbagey? Garbagey, now that's a clunky word; but very fitting, because it's not like we're ever gonna have anybody with any semblance of strength and grace in the pocket reading defenses and making good decisions, including the fine art of knowing when to throw the ball away. . . in my lifetime, I'm starting to feel. Now I'm depressed. Hey, wait, maybe we can just suit up a Hefty bag (speaking of garbage) with a bunch of crap in it. It can just stand there immobile like Aaron Rodgers, and we don't have to pay anyone. If the bag gets torn at least it's not an ACL, just suit up a new bag and stuff more crap in it. Zero dollars against the cap, $20 bucks at Home Depot. Anyway, Sartre's got nothing on me - or any of us, really - when it comes to being a Jets fan. I'll give him 'No Exit', alright.
If the plan is draft a qb next year, then shouldn’t we just keep fields? Why sign someone in hopes that he plays us into having to trade picks to move up? Just sign the guy that can make sure we draft top
Well put. I agree other than the Glenn part. My first choice a year ago was Flores, but he's also a defense guy. I like Glenn from a Jets player perspective, and I think it would make a shitty owner look even worse to fire a first time Alumnus coach based on one season - where it was obvious they tanked. Well, there's an example of Glenn and Mougey being on the same page. The trades, the picks, the losses... Year two is a different story. I'm glad you agree that Reich may really help things. Can't say I am optimistic but I am glad a lot of changes were made. Wonder who they'll look to sign in free agency, and how much they'll spend doing it.
This is the problem when the team is not all aligned on the same goal. The long term plan should absolutely be to get the best QB we can in next year’s draft since there aren’t any long term solutions in free agency, and probably none via trade either (Burrow would be great but would likely cost WAY too much). But we have a coach who was SO bad he really deserved to be fired after just one year as the team regressed significantly from the prior year, so he’s on the hot seat. He will be driving to win as many games as possible to keep his job. Not sure where Mougey really aligns in this…is he also on the hot seat? Is he safe no matter how we do next year record-wise? Hard to know. But it’s just hard when you are a hot mess AND unlucky. A couple years ago, the Patriots were able to land a pretty promising QB with the third overall pick. THIS year, there are NO promising prospects nearly as good even with the second overall pick. Some years the 2nd pick gets you Stroud or Daniels, and some years it gets you Zach or nothing. We’re the Jets…so of course we get nothing. Sometimes you need to be lucky as well as good…we’ve been neither for a long time
No way. Fields has become infected with The Stink. He can't be back next year or his presence will bring the team down. And unfortunately Glenn cannot tank or run 4-6 games to a large part of the fan base, he cannot tank or show less than probably a .500 improvement. I will say if he wins 5 or less for me he should get canned. But I'm also not rooting for a tank.
The worse the better if we are waiting til 27 for a qb, but bringing the team down is a concern too if they aren’t aboard the tank, which no pro player could ever be
Yup, luck would have it that the best qb options are next year, and we have a staff that needs to fight for its life. Even with 5 firsts in 2 years, the nyj still likely won’t be able to land a franchise qb.
Nobody knows what will happen but we have someone that carries us to 2027. Honestly I have no clue what the Jets will do
