CHANCES ARE THAT CULPEPPER IS DONE (Discussion)

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  1. Warhound7

    Warhound7 New Member

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    As reported by profootballtalk.com and rotoworld.com...

    As of right now, the chances (we're told) of quarterback Daunte Culpepper returning to the Dolphins in 2007 are 60-40 against.

    If the Fins were somehow able to finagle both David Carr and Trent Green, the number would shoot to, in our view 99.9-0.1.

    The team's only concern is that, if Culpepper is still showing ill effects of a knee problem that was exacerbated by being rushed into the lineup at the start of the 2006 season, an injury settlement would likely be owed to him. And with a $5.5 million salary due to Daunte in 2007, cutting him and stiffing him could prompt a strenuous legal challenge from Culpepper's camp.

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    I feel a discussion about this should be sparked up. Who should go after Culpepper and where would he be best suited? I don't think that the Vikings should have ever let him go, but assuming he wont go back there he's got the following options:
    Raiders; Lions; Falcons (backup); Buffalo (challenge JP); Panthers (need for a solid backup); Eagles (backup); Chiefs; Cowboys (backup)

    For a starting job he'd have to go to the Raiders, Lions or Chiefs. I think his best bet is to try to head to Oakland. He can then play with Randy Moss and the Culpepper/Moss era returns in addition if they take Calvin Johnson you're gonna have Culpepper to Moss AND Culpepper to Johnson. That would be ridiculous.

    Your thoughts? Lets hear em! :up:
     
  2. Warhound7

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    Moderator, please move this thread to the NFL forum. Sorry.
     
  3. IrishSteveZ

    IrishSteveZ New Member

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    Yea he's done, he was done 3 years ago the day Randy Moss was traded to the Raiders.
     
  4. brothermoose

    brothermoose Well-Known Member

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    He would what little he has left of both legs if he were to go to oakland.
     
  5. Br4d

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    Culpepper's knee is the issue. He'd still be very viable if he had some mobility but he really doesn't. A strong arm only gets you so far when you cannot wiggle out of trouble now and then.
     
  6. Warhound7

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    He had the scar tissue removed. I think he may still have a chance.
     
  7. Miamipuck

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    Typically it takes 2 whole years for a player to comeback from major knee surgery. By comeback I mean to be at their previous level of play, provided they can get there. He blew out his knee completely. So this year is going to be the year. Personally I think he is never going to be the same. However that is just my opinion.
     
  8. Namath2Kolber

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    I think that, last season, Miami made more out of Culpepper's injury than was really there to justify benching him. Funny if that comes back to bite them in the ass if they have to pay an injury settlement.
     
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    i could see him going to detroit
     
  10. xjets2002x

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    I hear Minnesota needs a quarterback these days.

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  11. abyzmul

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    I believe it was stray cartilage that they removed, but I could be wrong. There's a very knowledgable member of Finheaven that breaks down the Culpepper issue well. I'd post the whole thing but I'd have to make it into 3-4 posts because it's so long:

    http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=189209
     
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  12. Warhound7

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    sweet, thanks. it doesnt really matter what was removed... all that matters is that he had corrective surgery and in theory, should be ready.

    :finssuck:
     
  13. Jetzz

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    Joe Namath never let a trivial thing like a bad knee stop him. :breakdance: Pansy ass Culpepper... play football or go back to Burger King. :lol:
     
  14. Br4d

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    Here's the problem with his chances at this point: he blew out the ACL, MCL and PCL at the same time. To my knowledge that's the only case ever of an NFL QB losing all 3 ligaments in the same event. It's almost impossible to lose all 3 at once because of the way that they oppose each other, with different angles of deflection and resistance. Normally when you hear about this kind of injury it's a skiing injury in which the leg got caught under the body and rolled around as the skiier continued to tumble down hill. That's about the only way to get that kind of devastation to the knee.

    Now combine this injury with Culpepper's previous history of using mobility as his primary defense against sacks and it becomes likely that he just is not going to be able to recover enough of that mobility to be any good at the NFL level again. Culpepper has a below average release time in the pocket, he's not a gunner who gets back there and whips the ball downfield quickly. He has compensated for the slow release by moving around a lot and creating time for himself. I think those days are over, as is his ability to play at a high level.

    For people comparing this to Joe Namath, there really is not that much similarity. Namath was a pure pocket passer and a rapid fire gunner. He got rid of the ball about as fast as any QB of his time and really relied on the pocket only 5-10 times a game when somebody was going deep. After he got hurt and lost the mobility it really didn't have a huge effect on his ability to QB effectively. Of course the weak surgically repaired knees (both of them by 1971) were very vulnerable and he kept getting knocked out of the lineup by cheap shots. Culpepper needs to move around to be a decent QB, Namath did not.
     
  15. Jetzz

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    I wasn't seriously comparing the two... I'm just bashing Culpepper where I can.

    I didn't realize he damaged all three ligaments though. That is quite the number he did on his knee.
     
  16. Pam

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    Culpepper likely to be released

    Dolphins | Green would compete for starting job
    Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:26:54 -0700

    Alex Marvez, of the Sun-Sentinel, reports if Kansas City Chiefs QB Trent Green were acquired, he would battle Miami Dolphins QB Cleo Lemon for the Dolphins starting quarterback job. General manager Randy Mueller also plans to draft a quarterback.

    Dolphins | Green trade is imminent
    Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:04:24 -0700

    Alex Marvez, of the Sun-Sentinel, reports it won't be much longer until Kansas City Chiefs QB Trent Green joins the Miami Dolphins. A source said Saturday, April 14, that the Dolphins are set to make another run at acquiring Green from Kansas City and a trade should be completed sometime this week. The Dolphins and Green already have already discussed details of the deal.

    Dolphins | Culpepper does not receive medical clearance for minicamp
    Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:26:13 -0700

    Alex Marvez, of the Sun-Sentinel, reports Miami Dolphins QB Daunte Culpepper (knee) has not received medical clearance to participate in the Dolphins upcoming minicamp because of continued problems with his right knee.


    Dolphins | Culpepper likely to be released
    Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:17:25 -0700

    Alex Marvez, of the Sun-Sentinel, reports the addition of Kansas City Chiefs QB Trent Green would likely mean the end of QB Daunte Culpepper's career with the Miami Dolphins.
    http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#385651


    Looks like Culpepper is done. Shame. At one time, he was a force to be reckoned with.
     
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  17. Drew

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    Sucks. I really liked him before he went to the Phins.
     
  18. The Dark Knight

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    Trent Green? The Dolphins are a bad organization. David Carr could of easily fell into their laps as a great starter, instead the Dolphins go with Trent Green? I feel bad for them, I like competition. :)
     
  19. Cakes

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    Culpepper to Raiders to work with Moss again.
    Calvin Johnson to Raiders.

    Maybe.
     
  20. Yisman

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    I don't think the raiders draft calvin johnson if they don't agree to a trade for moss.
     

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