I think I already stated why I was impressed. You obviously only care about the final score and in the pre-season that's the only stat that's doesn't matter at all. You do realize that defense will always have the upper hand in pre-season games, take away two bad plays by Pennington and the game is 3 points. Your team ran extremely well early against one of the best rushing defenses in the league last year, Chad hadn't thrown a pass in game action in a while, perspective. There were a lot of good things going on for the Jets, if you really watched the game and didn't care about the final score.
I knew there would be some kinda of thread like this today. I figure if I look more there will be another thread asking if Chad should be our #2 QB. For God's sake people, it is just a pre-season game. If we played like this in any regular season game this season, I will be very concerned. Chad had a bad game. He made 2 very bad decisions. The O-line was so-so. D-line so-so. All in all I just think the team signed up for a grueling week of practice under Mangini; that's all............. I do not think you will see anymre plain stupid throws like that out of Chad again. Will he get intercepted - sure, but likely on a deeper route where the defender just makes a good play on the ball. Hell, Peyton Manning gets intercepted. He just doesn't usually throw stupid interceptions. Don't worry; Chad knows what he did. He will get better. Also, keep in mind that we did not have the services of TJ. There are making sure he is ready for the regular season. We lose an entire dimension to our running game without him. We need a punishing back to carry the load and Leon is there for creating things when the D has softened up. Leon is not a full-time back. He would need a HOF O-line for him to excell and get 1400+ yards a season. I am not dissing Leon either; I think he is great at what he does and can do; I am just stating the realistic. Don't get worried unless you see 2 more pre-season games like this. Then worry because we start against NE and you can bet they will be prepared. Even if we lose next week it will not bother me as long as we play smart, solid, efficient, football. Maybe we will see a bit of Revis next week, too. Oh, BTW, Kendall at center is a mistake. Hiking the ball over the QB's head twice - and you want more money - STFU and play football first.
I said earlier (maybe in a different thread) that I thought the running game was good. It was everything else that was terrible and the final score was a testament to that, not an anomaly.
I watched pretty closely Brick this week and last week. He looks average at best. He is definitely athletic, but he is just not strong. He gets next to no push in the running game. His pass blocking looks average. He desperately needs to get bigger and stronger. All in all, he does not look much better than Clement and he costs 10x more.
He's never gonna be a great run blocker. Pass protection wise, I believe he looks above average. The only time he gets in trouble is w/ his technique...that will improve w/ time. You play blind side left tackle at his age and experience..you're gonna take our lumps. need an example? Watch some of Tarik Glenn his first couple years.
I hope you are right. He looks very marginal to me in pass protection, like he is just barely getting the job done, nothing near 'dominant' that you would expect from a #4 pick. I am not sure what you have seen that makes you think he is above average. I can see him excelling at dealing with speed rushers beccause he is light on his feet. But he is going to struggle against power rushers bc he lacks strength.
Man, one bad game and you guys just flop on the Jets. Have some faith and trust in Mangini and the front office. Did DBrick give up 8 sacks that I wasn't aware of? There were 2 sacks in the entire game. The DLine is a little shabby but they'll get there. The OLine will get better and if we have to address it in next year's draft we will. Bottom line: Don't throw this year away on one bad PRESEASON game. Cheers.
He's improved since last year...last year against those same bull rushes CP would've been taken down immediately. He's learning how to fend off inside moves.Developing as a lineman takes time. Despite what many believe Brick was more of an athlete than a football player his rookie year. Now he's learning the correct fundamentals of being a football player that will bring him success. He isn't there yet, but he's improved and will continue to improve. He is also very good against outside speed rushes(Aside from that one play which looked like some block scheme confussion or a good read by the DE)
I think the issue is that Most people look at Marcus Mcneill and they wonder how as a rookie he played at an all pro level while Brick struggled with the transition. I'm not saying we should have drafted Mcneill since he may have serious health issues down the road but if you compare the two it makes people wonder. Obviously Mcneills body was much more ready for the NFL. I think it may take another season or two but Brick will become an elite player. He doesn't have that size advantage which makes things a lot harder for him. Pace, Ogden, Mcneil, all of those guys are monsters who are athletic, they don't have to be the best technique players.
Why aren't the coaches showing him how to use his hands and arms. And why does it have to take years to do that?
They have shown him(from what ive seen in TC) it's just a process that takes time. You see the same thing w/ young DL's
So, basically, you started this thread to say 'I told you so'. Thanks for confirming something we already knew.
When is the coaching staff going to realize that we just don't have the personal to play a 3-4 defense. They are trying to adapt players to a system rather than adapting the system to the players. I starting to think the Mangini isn?t as smart as we have been lead to believe. :jets:
Again, when you say 'anybody' are you speaking collectively for the membership of TGG or do you have some aversion to speaking in the first person?
Just anybody who can read and has a memory and all of their mental faculties. But if you want me to speak in the first person: I have noticed all of your repetitive posts on the subject, supersonic. Your opinion on the subject has been duly noted. Many times. By me.
