We all know what we have in Chad, we do not know what we have in Clemens. Some of us think the unknown is better then the known. We shall see. I just hope both players are giving a chance to win the job and if Chad wins it good for him and bad for the Jets because that means Clemens was a bust and we have no QB.
If Chad is the QB to start the year, thats a big indictment on Kellen Clemens. It shows that Mangini doesn't feel he has "it"
Haha..just for once I would like all the Pennington haters and all of the Clemens haters to fess up. Admit it, both of our QBs suck. There is not one worth running an NFL team. We would ALL like to see just about any starting QB in the league other them then on this team...just about...I can think instantly of 4 or 5 who would be no better. Maybe even some backups are better that what we have now...actually, I know they are.
Don, I guess you know more about the Qb position then our coach and gm. You should change your line of work. "Yeap, Mr. Johnson, that guy who we drafted # 2 who we played for his first 8 games behind a horrible line and no weapons sucks, he is done and we give up on him" And BTW, Farve, Peton and Elway also sucked their first year but this Clemens, he really sucks and I know QB's.
I'm pretty sure Mangini has probably already told him just that. And stop with the horrible OL line. We all know that. Pennington played behind the same line and did far better last year. What does that say? 7 or 8 games was plenty of time to show what he has.
Come on Jet Glass - I agree worst thread ever. Do you understand football at all????? Were any of the greats "Great" their first season or better yet their first half-season with Partice Squad WR's, no running game and running for their lives? I love this board but your giving Jet fans a bad rep man. Save this kind fo rant for WFAN where no one who knows what they are talking about calls in on a consistant basis.
My bad. I thought you were saying anybody but Clemens should play QB for the Jets. I guess I just thought that cause it's the title and what your post is about.
The problem with Pennington is he overcame his lack of arm strength by sound decision making. He didn't throw INT's, especially in the red zone and was always an extremely, smart, heady cerebral QB. Last year I don't know if it's because he was afraid the line wasn't going to hold up or he didnt have enough talent around him but he started forcing balls that no QB should, let alone one with his arm strength. The trend of interceptions returned for touchdowns is concerning.
your gonna look like an asshole if Kellen does great with a better oline "dont care if you have the strongest arm in the world, it makes no difference if you are not accurate. This guy showed regression from game to game making costly mistakes." how many picks for touchdowns did penny through this year...he wasnt good last year either...he won us games but we were overacheivers...he threw 16 td's /16 int. not a good season...kellen won us more games this year too with that shitty offense... this thread is ridiculous:rofl2:
Kind of agree that was a very foolish post on your part, I don't call people names but, in the game of pro football you have to judge with your head not your heart. The post above hits the nail on the head as far as Chad play last year. This was the main reason Chad had to sit last year, the CS gave him every chance to get out of the funk. The CS knew after the second game they made a mistake with the O-line and they were not getting the play they expected from this group. This is just spectulation on my part, but I think the CS was hoping Chad could make the adjustments needed to get as much as he could behind last year revolving door line. Hate to say this because I have always loved Chad and the kids smarts and heart, yet, last year Chad was the one who was regressing and this is why the CS knew it was time to get the future ready. Now all things being equal and really Chad has the edge in most catagorys because of all his years under center, I would ask you to judge each QB's performance by the bottom line and rethink your argument.... Jets record 2007 12 losses 4 wins Of thoses wins Chad had 1 in all his starts Kellen had 3 in all his starts Looking at thoses numbers and trying to remember the win count could have been 5 if receivers held on to a few of his on the money passes. How could you not give this young man another oppertuinty behind this rebuilt line....
the only reason chad did bad last year was because he had no line last time we we had a good line with chad we went to the playoffs
The quality of the surrounding cast matters exactly as much for a young guy as it does for a vet. In other words, if you agree that Clemens was held back by a crappy supporting cast, then you have to agree that Pennington was similarly held back. The only difference is that we have seen what Pennington can do when theres talent around him, and we havent with Clemens. Personally, I'm fine with Clemens taking 100% of the snaps at quarterback the day that he wins the job from Pennington, which was not the case last year (not that I had a problem with what happened last year, Pennington got banged up and the team sucked so why not let the young guy play). Youve got to keep Pennington around, because going into 2008 with Clemens and a middle round rookie as your top two quarterbacks is completely unacceptable; and if he's here, I don't think Clemens can win the job from him in a legitimate competition (and I assume that Mangini is serious about having one; who knows, maybe hes not, but I doubt hed keep Pennington around and not give him a shot to play). I know some people really enjoy bashing Pennington's ability, but with an improved offensive line and two quality halfbacks already on the roster (and potentially the most talented halfback in the college ranks possibly joining them in a month?), I think it's possible Pennington could return to the form he was in when he was playing with a healthy Curtis Martin. He didn't throw a lot of deep balls back then, but this team played some great football for a couple years there, and with a solid running game I think well see the same thing happen again.
Thats impossible, because he didn't have two rotator cuff surgeries with a healthy Curtis Martin and we may never have another Curtis Martin.
People, its time to break up with Chad Pennington- I know he means well, but he just isn't who he used to be and he is getting old and boring and its time to move on to something else. It was fun while it lasted, but its time to say goodbye.
