Is this gonna be a Pennington, Abraham, Ellis, Becht Draft or will it be a D-Rob, Jolley, Nugent, Puoha Draft? (Not saying the former draft was spectacular but it had the real potential and all were solid contributors)
Bradway was awful at making big decisions (or most any decisions) but he actually oversaw a pretty good scouting system, as is evidenced by some of our late-round picks. I just hope Tanny uses his information better than Bradway did.
Like it says clear as day in my post... "Bradway was never terrible at the draft...he was just horrible at negotiations..."
How do you know the Jets are going to use the Patriots way of drafting? Where did you get the definition of the Patriots way of drafting?
Its easy to say he is a bad pick 3 years later but drob was very hot on draft day and lots of teams wanted him. He wasnt a bad pick and just did turn out the way he should have
So, now you know that we got Jolley, Nugent, Houston AND another sixth round draft pick for that ONE first rounder? Why do people like you, and Beningo (equally clueless) continue to say we traded a first round pick for Doug Jolley? Even Fatsecca knows that's BS.
As much as i respect you Tee, thats 180 degrees wrong. I LOVED Jordan, but Jordan, MacKenzie, and Ferguson, were all OVERPAID by their new teams....Bradway was Responsible......in making those determinations.... Martin, cotinues to renogotiate downwards, and Chrebet,And Testaverde (as well as Martin) were Legacy players, with Unique Hometown histories, that merited their being kept, for reasons that lie beyond Sunday Afternoon. Martin, particularly is the Next JET to go into the HoF.... Vinny, is a local boy made good, and Wayne????? The NFL should be paying the NYJ, for making Rudy, come to life in front of 80 million people.
I think that Bradway is probably just doing what his title says, consulting. maybe along the lines of like the head scout, when it comes to the draft. one of the quotes mentions him apart of player personnel, so my guess is that he tries to help find players in the draft that suit the board of the teams needs. since their is a new head coach, and different GM obviously, the board fits the types of players that will fill the jets needs in this new system for defense and offense. Bradway isn't making any calls here. Tanny would look like a dumbass if that happens, and my guess is that Tanny could possibly be too stubborn when it comes to the draft. I think he's gotten more power each year when it comes to different things though, so hopefully he knows what he's doing and also keeps an open ear for Bradway. The only problem that I've really had with Bradway, is just not staying put in the draft. I think that Mangini will certainly have a say in it though, and hopefully the Jets keep their guard up and don't trade-up this year.
Wow, you took the words right out of my frickin' mouth! Bradway is actually better known as a scout than a GM. Analyzing personnel and talent isn't the problem, it's his decision-making skills and ability to negotiate as a business man that did him in. I'm not concerned with him scouting players, that is, as long as Tannenbaum and Mangini have final say...and, according to their press conferences, that should be the case.
From every press conference held since Mangini was hired. "The Jets will target intelligent, versatile players that love the game". Just look at the guys they've signed so far for a clue as to the direction the team is going. Seems pretty 'pats-like', no? I'm amazed how Tannebaum gets a free ride in all this. It's like he came to the Jets with Mangini and had nothing to do with the mess the Jets were in. It was he who signed Vinny, Chrebet, Martin etc, to those big deals. Or was he "just following orders"? And then he gets credit for getting out from under his whole mess by cutting guys and pushing money into the future?
This is the part that has me skeptical about Tannenbaum. Many people are more than willing to make a clean break between the Bradway Era and the Tannenbaum Era, without taking into account the contracts MT was responsible for, the FA negotiations he was involved in, and also the oft-stated rumors of a power struggle between them. I think Tannenbaum became responsible for a lot more thoings during the last year or two before the meltdown. However, for the sake of a complete lack of info on any of this, I can't really do much but hope that Tannenbaum was not in complete control of a whole hell of a lot and that Bradway was as much the responsible Keystone Cop that many people try to claim he is.
This strikes me as funny.... at first, Tannenbaum was ridiculed for not being involved in the draft, and now he's getting blame for it too. In the interviews I've heard, it's plain to me that Tennenbaum's previous role was strictly looking to find some diamonds in the rough.... guys he could get from other teams' prcatice squads, arena football, NFL Europe. That was what he worked on. He basically only witnessed what Bradway and company did in the draft.... he wasn't a very active part of that team. He watched and learned as much as he could.... but his role was extemely limited. Based on that, I have to think he deserves neither blame or credit for any previous drafts. My concern is that he has very limited experience running one himself. As does Mangini. Will they be good at player evaluations? Who knows. But at least we know these two guys are smart.... something I'm not sure Bradway had a bushelful of... smarts. He KNEW thet Robertson had knee problems. I blame him for that...... but, Robertson WAS every bit as highly regarded as D'Brickashaw Ferguson is in this draft. For that, Bradway is an idiot.... trading up for a guy with degenrative arthritis in his knees. Stooooopid.
Where TJ? What interviews? I have paid a lot of attention to anything involving MT and see only concrete statements doled out to beat writers and their ilk to describe Tannenbaum's duties (i.e. below segment), aside from the murmured rumors on sites like PFT.com: http://www.wnbc.com/nfl080/6818909/detail.html Tannenbaum oversaw the team's pro personnel department, professional scouting and was the lead negotiator for player contracts, as well as being responsible for the management and strategic planning of the Jets' salary cap. That doesn't sound like someone tasked with minimal personnel responsibilities to me, but maybe it's the team trying to boost up the qualifications of their new guy, which is almost as scary, to tell you the truth.
Thank you. It kills me to see people only give partial information and act like it's the whole story.
