Alright, take all your boo's and hisses about yet another thread about a potential player to the Jets and hear me out. I generally don't start threads like this, in fact this may be the first time I ever have. I wanted to see what you guys though of a move for Cromartie. 1) Is he a player that fits into this defense? 2) Would the Chargers be interested in T. Jones or Washington? Maybe a Jones/Sheppard package? When the Chargers had a terrific pass rush in '07, Cromartie lit it up. His production dropped off when Merriman disappeared. Did they also stop throwing at him? I think his lack of production the last 2 years has certainly dropped his value for them in a trade even if it was due to a lack of a pass rush. He's only 25 and has a very manageable $1.25 million contract for 2010. It runs out in '11 so we'd have to extend him. I think he could be a nice fit for our defense given Rex's ability to get to the QB and he could give us a nice young secondary to grow together for a number of years.
You can't really ask for a better 2nd CB than Cromartie. I would support this entirely, we need a 2nd CB pretty badly.
With that said, I'd do it for Jones/Sheppard. I don't think that's very realistic though. I don't want to lose any draft picks either.
Leon - Sproles similiar to me. TJones - 31? Wore down, doubtful Greene - Definite yet, but the Jets aren't unloading him. I see Dallas being able to acquire him since they have a trio of running backs, maybe Dallas can stick him in the Nickel since they have Jenkins/Newman.
Why would the Chargers want Sheppard and his 10 million dollar bonus he is due coming off a year in which he was inconsistent at best? I'd love to get Cromartie on this team but I dont see a match if their looking for a RB in return. TJ while he is coming off back to back great years doesnt have a ton of value on the trade market due to the fact that he is getting up there in age IMO.
That's a roster bonus, I'm not sure they'd have to pay that? I don't know how that works with a trade. I agree TJ's value is low, that's why I threw Sheppard in too to replace Cromartie. Of course he doesn't have a lot of trade value either. I'm not sure just how much trade value Cromartie has right now either though? What do you think of Leon in a trade?
Yeah thats true. Who knows what Cromarties value is right now as well. I think Leon would definitley give the Jets a better shot at getting Cromartie however teams are going to question his health coming off surgery for a major injury.
I doubt the Chargers would want to downgrade at CB and take a nearly-finished RB like T Jones or a question mark like Leon Washington. Also, I'd rather keep Washington because if he returns to form he is a big part of the team. We have fuckall to offer them for Cromartie unless they're interested in Kerry Rhodes.
I think he'd definitely be worth adding to our secondary but at the expense of TJ or Leon... not too enthusiastic. I'd prefer Jammer over Cromartie, Cromartie just seems like a pussy following that Shonn Greene TD run in the playoffs
Jammers 30, Cromartie is 25. Yeah the guy aint a great tackler, but hes good at coverage. And in a league where the pass means more than everything else combined Cromartie is looking pretty useful. Odds are the trade will NEVER happen, since we are giving them old beat up injury risk players demanding absurdly high contracts. And in return we are getting a very young talented coverage corner. Cromartie at the VERY absolutely minimum is worth a 3rd round pick, probably even a 2nd. I think id be willing to trade Leon for Cromartie and say a 4th round pick >< Make it a 3rd round pick and ill throw in TJ and Sheppard for free
While he does get owned on that play, one shouldn't expect a CB to take down 220+ pound RB's routinely.
Yes you should. With proper tackling technique and commitment it's not that difficult. Punishing, yes, but not hard to accomplish. Every now and then a smaller player can get run over by a back coming head-on, but that's almost always to do with a lapse in tackling technique. In this instance it was a straightforward side-on tackle that should have been easy. The big issue here, anyway, is that he actually backed away from the tackle. He didn't fail, he didn't even try.
if he pushed Greene even a little, someone else may have had a chance. You can't excuse him for stopping up short. If he was wearing Green you wouldn't be saying this, you'd want his head.
