In a lot of posts all the Chad supports keep says how Mark needs to take a page out of Chad's book or be more like Chad. NO! Which page did you all with a short term memory want Sanchez to take? It took Chad into his 4th season to get as many wins as Sanchez has after one. In Marks 1st year he had 12 TDs and 20 Ints. Chad who took three years in the pros to even become a starter has only had four seasons in his whole career where he threw for 12 TDs. Chad was suppose to be a mature intelligent player ready for the pros coming out of college, but he was far from starting material. Mark was a raw kid who astounded us all in his 1st year in the NFL and only true 2nd year as a starting QB (college+NFL). It took Chad seven years in the NFL before he even played one full season and only ever played two complete seasons over his up and mostly down career. Chad was a nice guy who we all liked, nothing more. I would rather have a dick for a QB who will win games and will be on the field more than the bench. The bonus is Mark is just as much of a nice guy and just as likeable, but he has already surpassed Chad in every way. Give Sanchez a break and go look at what the HOF QBs did there first season as a starter (Peyton, Troy, etc) and will will be quite ammazed at the year Sanchez put up. Compare Sanchez to winners not a washed up never was. Oh, I forgot he was a three time comeback player, wow, I'm hoping Sanchez is never even considered for the award. By the way I loved when we drafted Chad and really liked the guy coming out of college, but in the NFL, as a over thinking, lob ball, let me kill my receiver, weak armed QB he sucked more often than not.
there is no denying that pennington has a great mental grasp on the game and that it was what people are generally referring to when they say he could learn from chad. i won't address the rest of the OP because it really isn't worth it.
I'll give Chad credit, he was able to minimize his physical shortcomings (noodle arm) and use his brains and passing accuracy to overcome that and be a pretty successful QB in the NFL. No, he's not Elway or Marino. However, I certainly think he'd be great for a younger QB to learn from, more as a coaching type though, not just watching him on film. Keep in mind, Pennington was a part of some teams that sucked balls hard (not all of them though), whereas Sanchez was the QB for a team for one year that was damn good in aspects other than QB. Hard to compare those two. Plus the guy's been murdered by injuries over the years. I'd rather have Sanchez at this point, no doubt. You can't say that someone couldn't learn from Pennington though.
Pennington is the consummate cerebral quarterback....excellent decision maker (disclaimer: unless he's in a big game). I think he would make a great quarterback coach someday. But that's where it ends.....he doesn't bring anything else to the table at this point in his career.
Learn yes but to be more like Chad, NO. Each QB needs to find what works best with his own tendencies and improve in areas that will improve those tendencies.
I was ready to see Chad go at the end, but there's so much wrong with this post. Chad didn't get onto the field because of Herm. Herm loved him some veterans to the detriment of his team. It was the same thing that kept Cotchery on the bench behind sorry-ass McCareins. Chad had great touch on his passes, even with a pretty weak arm, and was able to keep things efficient. He was a game manager. It was only when his arm fell off that he really started becoming ineffective. He also learned a bunch of different playbooks, from college to the pro's, and learned them FAST. Probably 7 different playbooks up to now. From a number of different philosophies. That is a ton of knowledge to bestow. He could definitely benefit Sanchez in terms of study habits. Chad had an excellent play-action that he honed by studying Peyton Manning. Sanchez could definitely learn from him in that respect. Chad also knew how to work the flats very well considering how short a field his arm provided him. If he had had the physical tools and mechanics that Sanchez does, Chad would have had a pretty damned impressive career. No one (except maybe junc and IS) will ever mistake Chad for an elite QB, or anything close to it, but your post is so far over the edge of hate that it can't be taken seriously at all.
Coach Ryan could learn a lot from Vince Lombardi too, but he's dead. And Chad's just in Miami, so he's only dead to me. No difference.
Points well made abyzmul. HEY! What happened to our JETS tempt destiny thread?! Do the Mods not want us to win this billboard for our team? WTF?
Chad was drafted when we had Vinny as our QB coming off a year in which he was projected to take the Jets to the SB. However he got hurt. And his last full year in 98 he was a pro bowl QB who had the Jets as close to the SB as they have been since winning SB 3. Sanchez was drafted to compete with Kellen Clemens for the starting QB spot right from the start. There is a huge difference there when it pertains to how long it took them to start. What people want Sanchez to learn from Pennington is the mental part of the game. Chad was a very smart QB.
Is there really a point to this? Pennington is under contract to the Dolphins. This thread is about two weeks too late. Pennington could become a great QB coach in this league. If Rex ever wants to bring him in to coach up Sanchez, I would be all for it.
I can't believe how much time you actually dedicated to making no sense. Did Chad get drafted onto a team that had nobody to play QB the year he was a rookie? Did Chad get drafted onto a team that had one of the best offensive lines in football? Do defenses have something to do with how many wins a Qb "gets"? Do you recall any of the thousands of comments over the last 2 seasons on television, radio, and the internet which have mentioned how top picks used to be groomed for 2-3 seasons before being expected to start but are now expected to be ready to start right out of college because of the increased coaching quality in the NCAA?
This is on the edge of trolling to start another tired Pennington bash fest. You need to work on your arguments more.
Your interpretation of the Pennington Era is so out of touch with reality that it might just take me the rest of the afternoon to set you straight - if I had the time. Suffice it to say, Chad was, as others have already said, a great "game manager". What does that mean? It means he ran the offense exactly as he was coached to do, utilizing the open man, whomever that ended up being, avoiding turnovers, and generally playing within his own means, and not forcing things he wasn't capable of doing. He did much more than just that, but those are the things I've personally said that Mark could learn from Chad. I think you've mistaken some posts to suggest that Chad was/is greater than Mark. Maybe some think that, but I doubt anyone can make any kind of strong argument considering Mark's played just one season thus far. Personally, I don't think I can say I like either player over the other at this point. They've both been solid players, IMO. Your screen name, BTW, seems to almost entirely contradict your post. You may be just the fourth or fifth Jets fans I've ever come across who didn't like Pennington...
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