I never, NEVER bitch about the refs. But ya, they fucked us pretty good on those two plays. I feel that the Jets need to do enough to overcome bad calls most of the time, but sometimes in a real close game you just need 1 or 2 calls not to fuck you.
It wasn't a blown call, it's a stupid rule that was followed correctly. Like I said in another thread because all turnovers are automatically reviewed as are all scoring plays the referee should not have the ability to blow a potential turnover dead. Ed Hocule fucked the Chargers a few years ago with something very similar. When the league added the all turnovers automatically get reviewed they needed to institute that at the point the ball comes out they should not have the ability to blow the play dead until the ball is no longer live. If Davis has Bears around him and recovers it and goes down that would constitute blowing the play dead but the ball was live all the way until Davis laid it down in the end zone.
It was almost as if the ref was looking for something to call on the Jeffrey play. He had crap position or he would have seen Jeffrey doing the hooking. Point was, even if he missed the Jeffrey hook, and did not call offensive PI, he should have just called nothing. The bumpout at the end of the game was par for the course. Refs never call that on the last play of a close game. But the Jets had a million chances. They lost because their red zone offense sucks.
"stevew5 says:Sep 22, 2014 10:11 PM Pass interference needs to be reviewable. Coaches should be able to throw the red flag on it. And I’m a Bears fan" That's when you know it's bad.
It's beyond frustrating, I know we haven't played our best but every damn week blown calls are killing us. it cost us at least 7 points and probably more on the awful PI call to set up Chi's first offensive TD. they hit Geno late at least 2-3 times w/ no calls, we hit Cutler and flags fly. I am so sick of it. Yes, we still could have won but w/ the proper calls we likely do win, we had to overcome awful officiating and we weren't good enough to do so this week or last week.
^ ironic with the avatar...ahhaha We still had opportunities to convert and we didn't despite the calls so I'm not broken up over the bad calls.
we did have opportunities and we should have won the game but why do we have to overcome botched calls every damn week? 2 TDs were taken from us in TD games the last 2 weeks and that is just the beginning.
^ I agree with the frustration UNC but this is the nature of the game, eventually there will be calls our way.
I thought we just blew it last week, we didn't deserve to win and I think even had we got that late TD call our D would have given it right back but last night was atrocious. we are talking about a 14 pt swing, should have been OPI and 1st and 20 for Chi instead they got 1st and G setting up TD then how in the world do they blow that whistle that fast? It was 17-13 Chi at the half, should have been 20-10 Jets. Calls will go for you and against you, I can live w/ missing holding or some of the other stuff but the 2 awful calls were game changers. w/ all that aid we still had a chance to win but we aren't good enough to overcome a 14 pt swing yet.
God this shit is so frustrating. At one end, you hate the Jets for the dumb ass mistakes they made and the countless chances to score points and they didn't. But at the same time, the refs fucked us completely. Would these mistakes have been made had they gotten that TD on the fumble? Would we have held them to just a field goal if they didn't call that bullshit PI call? Fuck man.
I see what you are saying but at the same time I worry about scenarios where they know they have review so they are too trusting of it and don't get the play right on the field, because of the whole "inconclusive evidence" B.S. I'm talking about a scenario where the guy is obviously down before he fumbles but they let it play out because they know they will review and then upon review - although it's obvious he was probably down it might be blocked or something and they don't have video evidence of a knee down. That kinda crap happens more than what we saw last night. I personally think they should do away with replay completely. It's like they half ass it. This is yet another instance where they used replay and still didn't get the play on the field right - what's the point of having it. I can live with referees making mistakes. What I can't live with is rules designed with so many crazy nuances that they take so much time to make a call and because of all of that they still can't get the play right.
I've been saying this for years. The consequences of a bad PI call down the field are simply too great.
It's still a judgement call though not a definitive play. You can't make it reviewable because they wouldn't ever reverse the call.
But, that's just silly. I never understood this arbitrary distinction between "judgement calls" and "non-judgement calls." In point of fact, EVERY call is a judgement call. Want proof? How many times have you watched a replay (on, let's say, whether a knee was down or not) where you, everyone you are watching the game with, and both announcers thought it was clearly going to be overturned, and then it wasn't? Happens all of the time. The bottom line is, that EVERY call comes down to the judgement (the ability to make informed decisions from the assessment of some given amount of information) of an official.
Sometimes its just to much to overcome ourselves and the refs mistakes and its shown the last two weeks