So I was looking at Demario Davis stat sheet for the 4 years he has spent here ,Honestly his numbers besides his rookie year were solid and similar to David Harris as far as tackles go.He has speed but is suprisingly a liability in coverage,As a run stopping LB I feel he is good in that role ...I really thought he would eventually become the long term answer but It looks like Davis is gone,Henderson and Latimore are also free agents and Harris is getting old. What's the future look like at middle/inside lb?Do we end up resigning him?I'm starting to get nervous when I look at how many young free agents we have and how many older players are across the roster .We are gonna be thin at LB across the board unless Mac hits a grandslam in the draft and frees up some cap space....Im thinking we should be going LB in round 1 and 2 this year
Shit, I had honestly forgotten about Demario Davis...lol Dude is likely a goner. It's telling that he hasn't even been mentioned as someone to be brought back from Jets news.
demario davis was an absolute weak spot for the team this year. what he provided in run support, which i will tell you wasnt great much of the time was absolutely off set by his terrible ability to cover. i actually watched alot of just him and it really appears he doesnt know how to read keys. he is consistently faked out by misdirection or play action. if you run it straight at him he does fine. anything else and its a mess.
Its so sad because hes fast, young, and I've heard he can be a leader. Kind of reminds me of Kyle Wilson, who I thought had the physical talent, but couldn't locate the ball and had 0 awareness out there.
Erin Henderson, Taiwan Jones, and a FA/Draft pick. Honestly there was a better chance of a player tripping on the field than Demario actually making the tackle
This post is precisely why I think your posts in other threads calling posters who want to trade Mo insane or saying their IQ needs to be checked, are uncalled for and off base. I don't think anyone wants to trade Mo. Instead, we see it as probably a financial necessity and possibly inevitable. Evidently, he has some Revis in him and wants top dollar. We can't afford to pay him $15-$16 million a year. IMO he's not worth that much, but that's another issue. Have you looked at the cap, all the FAs we have and the team needs? Do you not want the team to be able to upgrade some positions and be able to re-sign the other FAs they want to keep? Unless Mac gets very creative, if we have to pay Mo $15-$16 million per year the team could wind up being worse off. The team has 23 FAs and only 6 draft picks. Zac Stacy is the only RB still on the team. We have 2 ILBs at the moment Harris and Taiwan Jones. There are a lot of holes. Do you want half the team to be UDFAs? The other issue is that the DL doesn't need to be great. It would be better to have a great LB corps than a great DL. The Jets have had one of the slowest and worst LB corps in the NFL over the last 5-10 years in terms of rushing the passer and/or covering receivers over the middle. Not re-signing Mo could possibly allow the Jets to sign 2-3 FAs who could have a greater impact on the team's play than just Mo alone. With the money they would use to pay Mo, they could possibly sign Lamar Miller, Danny Trevathan and a good young OG. If Mac can work it out to keep Mo, Harrison, Fitz and Powell, find a replacement for Giacomini, another couple of FAs and upgrade the OL, great. He'll be pretty close to a miracle worker.
The more the days past, the more I'd be alright with Mo getting traded. Like you said, if we can sign 3 players for Mo's salary (Lamar Miller, Trevathan, and a good young OG), and get a 1st round pick and have 2 picks in the 1st round (maybe we go with 2 OLB in Noah Spence and Leonard Floyd), then it would be great. The only question I'd have after this is how Sheldon Richardson will behave. One more strike and he'll be gone for who knows how long. I think Leonard Williams will progress to be one of the best D-lineman in the league, and we may even be able to keep Snacks under this scenario. I'd love to keep Mo, but him getting slapped with the tag just made me believe that he'll be traded. Sucks that another great homegrown player will likely be traded, but damn the cap..
Josh Mauga (who in the frontoffice's defense hadn't shown anything as a Jet) has been starting these past two years at ILB for the Chiefs. Don't know about his play but that D was on fire so pity he was let go. I remember they were saying he was really speedy. As for the Jets I'm guessing the plan is to start Harris-Henderson this year and develop some solid guys behind them. Look at the Broncos duo, they were drafted in the 5th and 6th round. There is also the possibility of getting Ragland in rd 1 or someone in rd 2/3 (if BPA) who could conceivably challenge our starters for playing time from the start. All in all Harris-Henderson as a base case and any potential upside tied to draft/low coat FA is fine for me.
Yeah, he some leadership characteristics. But they don't translate to on the field leadership. More clubhouse, off the field stuff. But you can't have a guy taking the reigns as a leader and then running around and getting toasted all over the field. It didn't help that Rex kept bragging about him. And Davis was kind of anointed as a leader. I think Rex thought he could will guys into being great. See Davis, Coples, and the 'Terminator', etc. If TB goes with the other guys mentioned it's gonna be a good thing. I'll be glad if that chapter is over with Davis.
Still ,he had 90 tackles and 2 sacks he wasn't the worst he just isn't an everydown player .David Harris isn't exactly Josh Norman in coverage either
Except he made 90 of them and 2 sacks and had over 116 and 114 the previous two years .David Harris had 124 this year and a few sacks....Im not saying we should keep him I'm saying who is out there?I'm not a big college guy I don't know much about Linebackers in this years draft
Yea Henderson was decent but he is also old.....I don't see him as an upgrade over Davis he is pretty much the same.If we had just one real pass rushing linebacker on any side of the field with our d line we would be leading the league in sacks
He better make tackles, that's his role. And yeah, he can run guys down. But he ain't a good football player im0. At least not good enough for what he was supposed to be, and what we want. I'm not up on his status, but I'll be glad if/when TB moves on from him
The Jets have obvious needs at LB and OL at this point. I suspect we'll see them targeting LB's and OL in the draft, maybe starting with an OLB or OT in the 1st round at 20. You can't really run a 3-4 of any variety without prioritizing your LB's. Rex didn't choose to do that, building up the DL instead because he ran a 3-4/46 hybrid defense that wanted to overpower the offense at the line of scrimmage instead of penetrating from the front 7. He used DB's to blitz to get pressure around a 3-4 front that was built to be a rock against the run. Maccagnan and Bowles are going to have to get the LB's to finish off the defense because Bowles isn't satisfied with big OLB's to set the edge and ILB's who can't handle coverage in pass defense. Quinton Coples did the job Rex asked him to do at OLB, which was set the edge against the run. He just wasn't a particularly good pass rusher and he couldn't cover most people in the flats. Demario Davis did the job Rex asked him too at ILB, which was to get to the point of attack against the run and help shut things down. He just wasn't good in pass coverage. You need your LB's to be versatile in a 3-4. The DL take the brunt of the physical contact inside and the OLB's need to be able to set the edge and both pass rush and cover the flats depending on what's needed. The ILB's need to be just as good in coverage against backs as they are at stuffing the run. The Jets already have the guys up front on the line assuming they are able to retain either Mo or Snacks. They need to get the LB's behind them to make the front 7 fully capable. Bowles, like Rex, often goes to 5 DB's against 2 TE's or when the offense is likely to be in the spread off of a normal personnel set with a back moving into the slot. It's better if you have a LB that you know can cover the TE/HB in that situation because you don't have to get smaller on the field to do the job. When 3 WR's are in the game you have to go to 5 DB's but it's better not to have to get smaller when the offense has the 2nd TE in the game. It's better not to have to change personnel because a HB is predictably being used as a slot receiver on a lot of plays.
We signed Henderson back to let Davis go. I'd like Jaylon Smith to be his replacement. Henderson until Jaylon is 100% ready to go. Smith needs to get busted with a bag of weed or something so he can drop to the 20th pick lmao
Until the NFL changes the drug policy I'd prefer to steer clear of people with a history of smoking weed. Josh Gordon's career has been ruined by nothing harder than weed and a couple of glasses of champagne at the wrong time.
I should amend my earlier post to point out that Gordon has been obviously publicly intoxicated on two occasions, both involving the police and one a DUI, so it's not just weed and alcohol use that has caused his calamity. It's the context of that use that is probably at the root of his problems. I'm not sure he's going to be reinstated at this point. DUI is a huge deal. It's often a life and death thing.
