Alternative title: Is Rex a lame duck coach? If we assume that Idzik and Woody are rebuilding this team to compete in 2014 or later, we can reasonably expect that the Jets will not be stellar this year (2013). If this is the case, and we do win 6 games or fewer (or even more, but we don't get to the playoffs) will Rex be the one fired? Obviously we cannot blame Rex at this point because he can only work with the pieces that he is given. Yet it seems, from my perspective, that Rex is essentially becoming a lame duck coach. (I do not think this is a good thing, by the way). How can Rex keep his job after 2013? The defense is going to suffer, but if Rex keeps our D afloat, will he be kept on? What if the Jets somehow manage to win 7 or 8 wins? Or is Rex's fate already sealed? Maybe its too early to discuss this, but I just wanted to point out that if the team does bad next year (which it most likely will), the fault cannot possibly be placed entirely on Rex. I just think Woody is going to play the blame game like he did last year with Tanny and Sparano, but I guess we'll see. Thoughts?
i dont think that rex will be going anywhere after this sraosn. they are gutting the roster, and anybody that knows the gae of football knows how hard it can be to win with so much turnover in the roster. idzik probably likes rex, at least enough to be comfortable building a team for him. i dont think that he is looking forward to a future without rex, i think he is trying to give rex a team to win with. that may take a year or two to happen, but i think that rex very much is in the plans. hell why would they hire a well established coordinator like morhinweg if they were just going to get rid of him next season? rex is part of the plan, hes a great defensive coach, and has had more success than most head coaches ever see; he will be given a chance to field a team he actually did build through the draft, not a bunch of veterans that can help him install his system.
I really hope so, and I hope that fans don't clamor for Rex's removal when we don't do well, but the media definitely well. It just makes me worried.
Im actually starting to believe that Rex will be our coach in 2014 no matter what. Rex is a good coach, he just influenced Tanny to much, let the new gm pick players, let coaches coach,
I think he is a lame duck coach. He clearly has no influence in personal decisions. The jets are purging the roster. I don't see how they bring him back after 2014 .
Then what was the point of keeping him for this season if the plan was to fire him in 2014 it doesnt make sense. The only way it makes sense is if Rex is the coach for the next 4 years. Why not get rid of him with Mr.T and the rest of the roster why keep him for a year for no reason, ill tell you why because Woody has no plans on fireing Rex anytime soon
I am pretty sure Rex will get an extension soon. He would not be hanging around, watching his team get dismantled, unless he was already told the plan and of course himself being a huge part of that plan for the future.
Honestly I think Woody will let Rex play out his contract. Unless we go like 2-14 next year it's clear to everyone that a new phase has begun... expecatitons on him can't be that high.
I just hope Rex is learning. I think that is my key issue with Rex. Last year, I saw so much confusion and mis-managed personnel on the field on offense, especially when Tebow came in and out I wanted to puke. I hope learned from that experience and just keep the same guy under center the entire drive (unless injured). I think he is a great coach and a master motivator. I read his book and had a lot of fun with it. I even have a Rex Ryan fathead at my office looking at all of the Giants fans in the office. I have faith in him, he has a great football mind, I just feel it may be too much of an "old school" football mind.....
WHile there was certainly a good case to be made that Ryan should have been canned along with Tanny and Sparano and the others, having acknowledged he will be there for one more year, I don't see how the logic of keeping him also demands he be gone following that year. I may not say quite the contrary, either, to be clear. Instead the logic of keeping him, however inadequate that was, most likely means whether he stays or goes next off season depends on how well he handles what he is given. Frankly on a personal level, I do not dislike Rex Ryan. But I have a fear of the post game pressers that we will be seeing in a few more months. Ryan may even understand that he can keep his job into 14 with even less wins than this past year, certainly than the 8-8 from the year before. But that doesn't mean that each post game after a loss will be pretty. In other words he could help lose the war for himself there in addition to on the field. I do have that fear, and again on a personal level, I don't know how many more bizarre or embarrassing performances by him in those conferences I want to see. Counting fingers and toes, I don't know if I want to get to even my second hand, let alone my feet, and we are almost certain to see Rex get to our second hands. If we get to our feet, he could be out of here for sure.
Part of rebuilding is installing a system. If Woody intends to get rid of Rex after one season, then all he's done is delay the rebuilding process a year. I believe that Woody intends for Rex to remain for the foreseeable future, barring any major meltdowns. It just doesn't serve any positive purpose to keep him as a placeholder while ejecting Tannenbaum.
Owners don't really need scapegoats... therefore Rex isn't his scapegoat. I don't think he is in Idzik's long term plans so and his days could be numbered.. especially if the bottom falls out this year.
IMHO the game past Rex by 3 seasons ago just like it did to his dad years before. The regret is neither Buddy or Rex ever realized it. :sad:
this is my issue. i feel as though rex will not be back and that the only reason he is here is because woody doesnt typically pay people to not work. and to have 2 guys getting paid to sit home would be something he has never done. as a matter of fact i dont know for sure but i think he has always had guys play out their contract or reassigned them. maybe mangina would be the one exception. but i dont see him in the future plans, i dont see him having any influence and just being a caretaker for this year and then him being replaced and us getting a new qb next off season. and truly starting fresh. my issue as you stated is that it wastes an entire year to do it that way.
Rex will be the Head Coach of the NY Jets for a long long time, or until he punches his OC in the face on the sidelines....whichever comes first.
Tanny definitely deserved to be fired, but you can't deny that his firing allowed for Rex to stay on without (too) much blame. Perception matters, and when a team doesn't do well someone is usually fired.
there is a big difference between being a scapegoat and just sucking... tanny just sucked...a scapegoat infers someone got a crap deal and was just the fall man to place blame. if the Jets were going to fire Rex they would have with or without Tanny's situation being handled.
Tanny was fired because he gave out horrid contracts which is the crux of his job. I understand why Rex wasn't fired, but would have understood why if he was too.
Rex will be a lame duck after this season. Woody has to give him an extension or get a new coach. Get a new coach Woody. Idzik will eventually need to have input on hiring a coach since it will his ass on the line. They got rid of Mr.T. The players are departing via free agency. It will be Rex departing next January.
