No, see, this is precisely where they would go to die. I'm just not sure which would come first, the crash or the burn. The Jets would be the "change of environment" they may need? Fresh start with the Jets, a cure for all ills! Unless you were kidding, there's always that.
We need a NEW OWNER! Sell the Team Woody! You suck at ownership and the fans HATE YOUR GUTS! Look at the Patriots! No Brady, no Belichick, NO PROBLEM! They are building a team, drafted what looks to be a great QB, and may make the playoffs this year! Go destroy your new soccer team and SELL THE JETS! Sick to my stomach over this crap team!
If Glenn is fired, I am all for the Jets just turning the Head Coaching gig over to Artificial Intelligence, OC and DC roles, too. Give us a REAL culture change.
I posted this in another thread so I’m not gonna lay out examples again, the biggest red flag I see is not the 0-5 record. It’s not the turnovers and it’s not even the mental errors. It’s the team’s lack of hustle. They do not play to the whistle. They do not seek out the next level once their assignment is finished. They do not hustle to help out in tackling. They do not hustle to make a block on offense. They play to the assignment, meaning once the player does whatever the assignment of the play was they’re done. From that point on, whether they’ve done a good job on their own assignment or not, they stand around or lightly jog. It’s a total lack of effort. I find that incredibly disturbing.
I don’t really ever remember a team in this league having a chronic fucking fumbling problem either. It’s bizarre.
And coupled with an alarming inability to create take aways on D…I’ve not seen this ever. I wonder what the record is for most games without a takeaway….we are at 5 and counting now. Unfuckingbelievable
The top coaches in some order are: Campbell O'Connell McVay Shanahan Tomlin LaFleur John Harbaugh Jim Harbaugh Payton Reid Vrabel 8/11 have clear offensive roots. It is possible for a defensive HC to work, but I don't understand why we keep going down a suboptimal path.
Yeah, this has been glaring. It reminds me a lot of the Saleh teams. Is this a problem with Glenn or do we just have too many losers on the team? I honestly don't know, but increasingly I'm thinking it's the latter. The roster rot might just be too deep for the coach to matter. We just have too many guys who don't care. They don't take pride in their level of effort, they don't care about whether their teammates are trying hard, etc. Record is 6 I believe. We'll either tie it or break it if we don't get a takeaway vs. Denver next game.
I get that it's fashionable to hate on McDermott, but leaving him out of this is wrong. That said, I'd prefer an offensive head coach too. But the most important thing is to hire someone good; offense for the sake of offense without any due diligence is how you get Gase.
I tend to agree. I fear that the loser mentality is just endemic on this team. I really don't know how this gets turned around.
I think that because our coaches don’t emphasize stripping the ball, our O hasn’t practiced against somebody that is actively trying to rip the ball out thus… It’s the same on the D side with covering screens or tight ends. When was the last time the Jets O ran a decent screen play or had a tight end that could catch the ball. If you don’t face it in practice on a regular basis, how can you be prepared to face it at game time? It’s just frustrating.
Well until McDermott wins a championship he’ll have to deal with the criticism, because truth is he has a dominant QB and a very good team. In the playoffs, especially deep in the playoffs, all of the teams are great…so coaching matters. And of course, there’s the debate…can you be considered a GREAT coach if you never win a championship? I think you can…see Bud Grant, Marty Schottenheimer, etc., but because they are not champions, they will always kind of be considered maybe a cut below those who have … especially those who have won multiples like Belicheat, Noll, Reid, etc. I also give a TON of credit to Parcells. He is clearly a great coach, but to me, one thing that absolutely stands out with him is that he was a great builder of teams. He took shit teams and made them championship caliber…he did it with the Giants who sucked before he took over, he did with the Pats, with us, with Dallas … he wasn’t going and taking over already good teams…he took over shitshows and made them playoff teams. And it didn’t take him 5 years to do it either. THAT is the kind of coach we need.
Woody is just too dumb. At this point you can't teach old dog new tricks. Not even interview guys like Coen and Brady. I thought it was good he hired 33d team, but led to the same result as always.
I was hoping to see a bit of a roster purge in the offseason. The Patriots did it in the offseason and have a boat load of new starters. The Jets kept the Tony Adams and Allen Lazard’s around. It’s strange.
The Jets were in a bit of a purgatory this offseason. Definitely not built to seriously contend but also not committed to a hard reset and rebuild. That forced some decisions that do not set us up for long-term success. I'm thinking specifically about the big contracts to Sauce and Garrett and not shopping Breece. This team looks so bad I almost want them to tear it down to the studs. Only big names I would keep are guys on rookie contracts.
Yeah true, but I’m talking on a smaller level. If they wanted to keep the core players together, that’s fine. They decided to keep a bunch of the bottom roster guys who might not even get guaranteedNFL contracts if the Jets decided to cut them in the offseason. Adams and Lazard are the most notable examples. Not sure why Andrew Beck is even on the roster if they’re going to line Taylor or Ruckert up as the fullback. Sherwood got rewarded with a big contract to be the leader of the defense and it’s massively disorganized. I also see his lazy ass jogging around if the plays not on his front side. Talk about not setting a tone for the unit you need to be the leader of.
For what? For the new rookie GM to fuck up more picks again? I disagree We have precious few blue chip players…I’d say the only guys worth keeping on this team are GW, Q, Sauce, and then the two tackles but mostly because they are young high draft picks who have shown promise more so than they earned that through performance. I’d put Breece in that category because whatever the criticism, the dude makes plays. You can’t get rid of EVERYBODY…you have to at some point start the actual “rebuild” part of the “tear down and rebuild”. Why would we get rid of the few good players we have? Makes no sense to me. I’d take a sure thing in GW than another fucking draft lottery that history shows we will almost certainly fuck up. You don’t get better by getting rid of good players, you get better by building around them and getting rid of bad players.