2010 Defensive Stats

I neva wrote dat! I'm not dis nijunk guy. Dat's some just guy on one of those blogs. I don't have time for dat stuff.

 

Have you watched those D's play lately? I wouldn't throw around anything about credibility with that post.

That was a great half of football, in the 1st half NE's O dominated us.

Throw outr the rankings, the rankings show us near the top.

In the 2nd half of the year NE's D faced Chi, the Jets, the Colts and Pitt and held them to an AVERAGE of 16 PPG. Their D is not better than ours overall but they have played MUCH better down the stretch in the biggest games.

 

Lets see, Chicago has the 30th ranked offense, Pittsburgh the 14th ranked offense, we are ranked 11th, and the Colts 4th.


Detroit with a backup QB and RB put up 24 points, GB with a backup QB put up 27 points, ---- Pitt put up 26 points, and Indy put up 28 points.

Us scoring 3 and the Bears scoring 7 really lowered that average.

 

You worry about rankings too much and on top of that you are using yardage rankings. is the point of an offense to score points or gain yards? That "30th ranked" Bears O put up 38 on on our "great" defense. Pitt played 4 games w/o their top flight QB, you don't think that plays a role w/ rankings?

Yep, det put up 24(they put up 20 on us) but once it got to 24 in the 3rd qtr did they allow another point?

bad game against GB, that will happen after playing so many big games.

The Pitt game was never clsoe, they tacked on points in garbage time.

Indy had a nice comeback but it failed.

NE has had better play from their D in the 2nd half of the year and their D is playing much better than our D right now. I THINK our D is better and is capable of being much better but the results do not lie.

 

There's no way you could have watched our defense all season long and say "this is a good defense". It's a good enough defense to win if our offense shows up (which isn't a guarantee since we had 4 fucking games where we scored 0 offensive touchdowns) but this defense is pretty bad. We can't rush the passer by sending 4 or 5, our blitz packages are getting predictable, we can't cover the TE or slot WR. Our rush defense is excellent, altho that has faltered in our last 2 real games as well (altho a good number of those yards were a product of poor tackling).

Maybe in the postseason we can get our shit together defensively and play more like the 09 unit but I wouldn't count it. If we make a run, I bet it'll be on the strength of our offense.

 

But you used the weather for our defense holding the Packers to 9. Bears offense is built on speed, got slowed down by snow right?

In order to score points you need to gain yards, I don't know if you are aware of that but it is true. It also keeps the other offense on the field, because the team moving the ball gets to keep it.

PPG as I listed above were high except our shitty performance and the Bears being stopped by snow.

So the teams you brought up were bad examples in all of those games except our and the Bears their offense won them the game.

 

I could use the weather ezxcuse for Chi if NE had problems, in our game against Gb both teams were having big problems. Clearly the elements didn't affect NE so it shouldn't have affected Chicago.


Would you rather be #1 in points scored and #10 in yards or the other way around?

NE's D is playing MUCH better than our overrated D, it's not really debateable. The lone team in that group of 4 that put some points up was Indy but the Pats D made a stop to win that game late. The other 3 struggled big time against NE's D inclduing Pitt. don't be fooled by the points scored as most were scored in garbage time.

 

I don't care what the stats say. Reality is that we have shit for a 4 man rush and when a smart OC and QB picks up the blitzes in pre-snap, our total lack of depth in the secondary and total lack of coverage skills at linebacker get exposed easily.

This is not the type of performance on defense that gets you deep into the playoffs. Teams are attacking the middle of the field on us and having success. We can hope for a fantasy that Rex has been holding some secret weapon back for the playoffs, but if that happens it will also be smoke and mirrors to fabricate pressure on the QB.

We're at least a year off, and we need a beast edge rusher on the blindside. That would cover up the other holes in the front 7, and Rex could get his coveted #1 overall defense back easily.

And a playmaking and playcalling centerfielder would also be nice to have. I don't subscribe to Br4dw4y's theory that every elite team needs an elite safety, but in this case I thnk it's something that we need.

 

Pass Rush has Zero to do with it, absent Jenkins.

Teams have adjusted to what we try to do, by getting the ball out quicker.

When the ball is gone in 3 seconds or less all the pass rush in the world isn't going to help.

 

The too many times we saw opponents convert on third and long is a situation that cries out for explanation. Why does that happen?

My theory is that while the Jets have Revis and Cro, the rest of the secondary is not big/fast/hitting enough to allow for covering those situations with the secondary squad, coupled with opponents' use of TE's and multiple wideouts. The Jets leave linebackers in, and imo the Jet linebackers are not good falling back into pass coverage.

Many think the Jets have a great set of linebackers. I hear all the time that Harris is underrated. We see the CS use him and Scott dropping into coverage. Sometimes that goes along with using secondary members like Coleman on the blitz.

 

Yea, our D rested most of the secondary, rotated in the 2s very frequently, and the D held BUF to zero points while they (BUF) were playing all their non injured starters.

Yea, lets not count that one.