2019 NFL Playoffs - Wild Card Weekend

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  1. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Maybe he shouldn't have given away that secret just to show us up...
     
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    Is Vrabel being smart here? The Pats will still have plenty of time to kick a field goal, and if they do, it'll be the Titans who wish they had more time.
     
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    That's where analytics meets reality of games and momentum, circumstances, etc. Of course you should always go for a 4th and 3 in no man's land like that. But gaining 30 yards of field position against an offense that hasn't scored in the half is super important. Especially with a punter like Kern and a struggling offense.

    I'm with you in other games, with more quality offensive football though. But I think this time game circumstance trumps analytics.
     
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    Agreed I don't think so. Vrabel realllllly just bet on getting a stop on this drive big time. I hope it works out though.
     
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  5. MJK

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    Everyone knows the ending
     
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    It would be great if Folk blows a kick
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Here we go. Titans act like they’ve never seen a rb leak out in the middle
     
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    I agree in general, but I don't think it's fair to say circumstance trumps analytics. It's more like circumstance trumps an analytics model that doesn't have enough variables. It's entirely possible some analytics guy working for a team like the Ravens or Eagles has made a model that can account for this situation and may even recommend a punt.
     
  9. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Here we go with playing in off coverage. Brady just keeps finding the man playing against off coverage.

    Edelman'a dropped more gimme balls like that this year than ever. I wonder if the concussions and injuries are getting to him.
     
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    Edelmans drop might have just ended Tom Bradys New England career.
     
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    Looks like vrabrel’s gamble paid off.
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Titans d stands tall again
     
  13. HomeoftheJets

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    And Vrabel's decision to bet big on his defense just paid off. Now he can burn all of NE's timeouts and put them in a real bind. Or go aggressive and try to win the game outright.
     
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    Go aggressive.
     
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    Just win the game don't play it safe
     
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    The GOAT coach in this game doesn't use analytics whatsoever. Momentum is a real thing. Teams play so differently game to game and you can't really create models that take into account how schemes can get different players different looks.

    It's a lot easier and more predictable in a sport like baseball. There's also too much raw human emotion in a sport like this that can affect it.
     
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    One of the little things that the Pats did well: not burning any timeouts because they couldn't get set properly on offense or defense. Having all 3 timeouts is valuable in this situation.

    Edit: The Titans will probably win at this point, but they just did exactly what they shouldn't: burn a timeout because of miscommunication.
     
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    Please convert this 3rd down!
     
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    Yeah he does, read up on Ernie Adams. He just doesn't like to talk about it (plus I think he disdains the Twitter crowd who act like know-it-alls because they took Stats 101 on Khan Academy). Whether it's possible to make a model for that specific situation, I don't know. It's possible it isn't because of a lack of specific enough data, but I wouldn't rule it out entirely. There are a lot of smart people out there.
     
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    Let's go, huge catch in bounds!
     

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