Umm...we downgraded severely at RT, Brick had an off year, and Mangold battled a troublesome ankle all season. Why is it hard to accept that the line went to shit in a year?
For one thing, no the Jets OLine was not considered the best in the NFL last year. Top 5 maybe. Second, absolutely. They completely fell apart. They went from giving up 28 sacks to 40. They dropped from 4th in rushing to 22nd. You tell me how that's anyone's fault, but the OL's? Happy feet my ass. Happy feet is sympton of getting your ass handed to you every time you drop back to pass. How often did Sanchez have all day, as you say? Did we just watch the same team? I saw a guy who spent most games running for his life.
I know. I didn't take it in a bad way. I was trying to give you a snappy comeback:breakdance: You are right about the posts. This is how we vent. But the Jets have had a lot of ups & downs in just the past few years. More ups than its been in a long time, and I go back to the 60s. One thing I sense from this regime is that its a little different than the past, from a positive standpoint, and I'd hate to see the fans get carried away with the negativity. I'd like to see this regime get a full opportunity. I can't help but look at Coughlin's tenure with the Giants, and look at the remarkable similarities both in criticisms of him and Eli, and with respect to malcontents on the team who needed to be addressed. (Jets have had more early success, BTW!) I hope Jets fans will be patient, and give themselves an opportunity to be rewarded for their patience.
With all due respect Blocker you defended Schotty to no end and you were wrong, I know you tried to be balanced in your approach when you defended him but part of Sanchez failure goes back to his OC. And you will be wrong about Sanchez the day he is teamed with the right OC, how can we give an OC 6 years and still defend him and get down on a guy who just completed 3 years as a QB in the best football league in the world? I watched this arrogant OC put his QB in the worst situations possible and expect miracles from him. And I will defend MS because he is hampered by a terrible OC, when he is given a chance to work with someone who knows what he is doing MS will be a very good QB.
But the comparison was between Sanchez and Eli in their 3rd years in the league, not in comparison with other QBs. Come on now.... I think YOU'RE the one who is misunderstanding ME here. I'm not talking about his entire career thus far and comparing it to Eli's. I'm talking about *JUST* their 3rd year and what they both did that season in comparison. This whole crap was started because an Eli-Fan thinks his boy had a better season than Sanchez(which is debatable), AND THERE WAS NO COMPARISON. <--------- THIS bolded part is the one I was responding to.
I actually agree that Eli wasn't much better like the original poster said, but comparing gross stats is pointless. That would give you results like Ryan Fitzpatrick was better than Joe Montana, or that every NFL starter this year was better than Joe Namath. Statistics are a product of their year. This year happens to be one in which QB numbers were inflated to their highest rate ever.
Braylon, this is one of the points I was making. The other was I thought you misunderstood the point about how Sanchez ended the 11 season, the reason I thought so being that you referred to him doing well in the playoffs.
Bolded part is incorrect. I in fact have criticized Schotty, but I do not, like you and other Sanchez Fans, think he's anywhere near the only problem with the O or the team as a whole. Sanchez's flaws I do not see as having to do with the OC. You have no evidence whatsoever that Sanchez would do better with another OC. That is wishful thinking on your part. Having said that I have no problem with the Jets going that route, but unlike you all I expect to get out of it is that as a practical matter it will bring the team closer to the fans realizing the problem is with Sanchez.
Oh I see! no. I was simply referring to Regular Season play ONLY. Not the Postseason. Now I see where the misunderstanding came from.
haha, just a joke because the guy was talking like sanchez was an intimidating figure who would throw boomer around like a rag doll. if there was a royal rumble with the starting qbs in the nfl.. sanchez would be one of the first to go flying over the ropes. :lol:
This is where I disagree with you, MS is not calling 60 passes against one of the best pass rushing defenses in the game. BS fail How about calling a go route to Holmes once during the game any game for that matter and letting MS throw deep. BS fail What about not calling for a shotgun formation in the redzone with no one to chip the pass rusher on Hunters side, KNOWING hunter is a turnstile. again BS fail. What about not designing plays that call for SG to be the only option when he is not a pass catching RB, again BS fail. We have ample evidence that BS is seriously damaging this guy, MS threw for 30 TD's and 18 ints, he led the team to leading the RZ in scoring %, he credited Matt C with helping him to improve in the redzone, obviously he is learning and has a lot of learning to do. MS attitude reflects and is an extension of his offensive coaching staff, he only does what is asked of him, and I'm aware that he makes some boneheaded plays at times, I'll give you that Big, but he is who he is because of what his OC asks him to do and what he is given to work with. The fact that BS is not a HC in this league shows what the league thinks of him, the proof is now evident that just because he has the name he does not have his dads ability. He is holding on to his OC job with the jets because the day he becomes a HC in the NFL he will be fired within 3 years and never be called back again.
Except Boomer is acting like HE won a SB title with the JETS when he really has as many Championships as Mark. What a turd he is for saying what he said.
