It was a combination of (i) him not being a very good QB AND (ii) the baggage of his ill-conceived protest. It wasn't worth it. Like Ray Rice v. Kareem Hunt. Hunt is still good enough to be worth the baggage. Ray Rice not so much. And if you don't think NFL owners (right or wrong) thought Kaep came with some serious baggage then we really can't have a fruitful discussion. If it was no big deal then he would have been back in the league. It was a BIG deal. Whichever side you were on you have to understand that.
I was saying that for the benefit of others who keep insisting there was clear evidence of collusion. I have no issue with folks believing there was collusion--it's entirely possible there was. But it's entireluy possible that there wasn't. We'll likely never know but, just like the NFL settling, I'm hoping this whole mess goes away. We get this bullshit eveyday in our lives--I don't need it in my football.
Do not care. I'm not an envious person--it's unseemly. His bogus claims are going away and now he's irrlevant.
Well duh, it's the internet. And the story just broke and came to a conclusion. This is the final nail in it going away. A week from now it'll be another distant memory. Let me know when it's ok to stop talking about it in a thread talking about it.
haha you can talk about it all you want, I dont give a shit. it AINT going away though. The NFL will forever have to hear about how they railroaded a guy for having an opinion. AND... the president will need a distraction to tweet about from time to time anyway
How do I know he would have gotten more if he won? Because he would have been entitle to double what he would have made if he had stayed in the league. Do you really think the league agreed to pay him double what he would have made? That takes away any kind of incentive to make a deal. I am sure the league does not pay the attorneys an hourly wage so really it would have cost them nothing except the press that comes with a case like this. If you have a slam dunk case which you and a few others are proclaiming he did, i.e. "bitch slapping" the NFL, then wouldn't it make sense to take the time and get even more money? It was due to go to trial/arbitration this year so it's not like it was going to stretch out another 10 years. As far as "In the US damages are paid with money as compensation. He got compensated with money and settled.". The USFL won against the NFL in their lawsuit and got exactly $1, so yes, compensated with money is true but you have no idea what he settled for. I don't hate Kaepernick or suck up to NFL management. Why, why, why do you want to make statements with no basis in reality?
Obviously the only reason he wasn't on an NFL roster is the NFL couldn't stand the heat from his protest, especially after the President told the NFL to fire players who do what he did. The NFL wants to promote players who fit a squeaky clean image, ignore everyone else and if you get bad public attention bury you. That's their MO. The NFL HR department didn't have a game plan for what Kaep did. Instead of suspending him for a couple of games they tried to make him disappear. Kaep didn't disappear. Legal protest while just as damaging as knocking out your wife on camera in an elevator is Constitutionally protected speech. The NFL wasn't prepared with an HR policy that they could uniformly use to enforce a code of conduct during the anthem. They resorted to management thuggery instead. That's not how things work anymore.
Actually performance and what teams may feel is bad publicity both contribute to whether or not a player gets signed. Eric Reid kneeled, was part of Kaepernick's collusion lawsuit, yet he got signed.
All the NFL had to do was have enough balls to not let a certain twitter personality damage their product.. .I'm glad they lost this deal
It was barely talked about last year which IMHO is the reason the league settled it now--be done with it--not because of any "evidence".
So if we eliminate the "baggage" I think he could've been an option for several teams. Look at some of the recent QBs fielded. You telling me. Kaep is worse then Cam Newton backup? The Broncos? He's better then Keenum. The performance had nothing to do with it. Under the right system the guy won games. That's the big deal behind the collusion and him getting his pay.
How do you know he didn't get double? I don't know what Kaep was worth in arbitration. He may well have gotten double what he could have earned? I really do think the league paid a lot of money to get this sealed. Maybe more than double. Hard to know. What's clear is it was enough to settle. As far as slam dunk. You have it backwards. It's almost impossible to win a collusion case like this. I was extremely surprised the NFL settled. I wouldn't settle if I didn't collude, would you?
The NFL tried to get the case thrown out and they lost. They were desperately trying to settle. This is a win for the players. for a football analogy, not a 55-0 win for the players but 24-17. Considering they were big underdogs it is notable keeping with the same analogy: waterboy and stokes are just arguing because the NFL didn't lose 55-0, we can't call them losers. Most people see what happened here though
Kaep when he left is clearly somewhere between 16 and 64 of QB's who would be under NFL Contract. He was arguably better than half the starting QB's. As a backup QB he probably had a value of somewhere between 3 and 6 per year for 3 years. That's about 9 to 12 million in lost wages. If the NFL paid Kaep over 35 million he was compensated as if he won the suit outright including damages.
Hahahahaaaa stop it. Kaepernick kneeled in September 2016 and created the controversy all by himself. Trump didn' tweet about it until over a year later. I get Trump isn't your President but he didn't create this mess. Kaepernick (and a bunch of other morons) created it and the league allowed it to fester to damage the product.
I think the Nike ad did a lot to force the settlement. The Nike deal turned into a huge success for Nike and helped restore Kaep's public image. The NFL is all about image. I think that was a real shock to the NFL. It was pretty evident Kaep had withstood the bad publicity and the shift was starting to fall on the NFL.
If there was no baggage he would have been on a team. Even though he's not very good. There was baggage, just like Ray Rice and his dimished talent. The bogus claim of collusion is what led to his not being signed. You can't have it any other way.
We all see things through the prism of our own opinions. You see win. I see win. Pretty sure Kaep and his supporters see a 55-0 win. Pretty sure NFL owners are laughing all the way to the bank.
