Lol. You’d believe everything is collusion to defend your position. It’s what GMs do. In every professional sport.
That's all that matters. The proof is the product on the field. Schematics of the offense has nothing to do with it.
I am sure Ali would have settled if there was an an offer he found attractive. But unlike the NFL the govt. Thought they would win. The fact the NFL gave in and settled is a huge victory. He gets lifetime financial security and possibly the hope of playing again. I see no problem with him settling. He has already paid a huge price he should be allowed to take care of his family. We will see the details. There will be some rather upset owners that are mad that they are paying 3 or so million each to settle this plus the leagues legal Bill's. You know some of those owners who dislike Goodell will leak the agreement as well as some of the embarrassing texts and emails found during discovery. While the framework of the story between Ali and Kaep ils pretty similar there are huge differences. Ali had a lot more to lose and Ali was much much more famous and had a much bigger platform. If Brady or Manning had been the 1st to kneel they would have been much closer to rising to the lvl of Ali but they would never have been blackballed.
I do think history will be kind to Kaepernick. I think a lot of people will find themselves on the wrong side of history with what has gone on in recent years and this is a decent example of that. He's probably done playing football because its been so long now but I hope he gets another shot just because it would be good for the sport if nothing else
They didn't back down with Brady because they set his punishment. It wasn't until later that Brady took it to court and completely different issues. One is a multimillion $ lawsuit and the other was a 4 game suspension. You say the only time in recent memory they settled was the concussion lawsuit, so that makes what 2 out of the last 2 lawsuits settled? Lawsuits are settled all the time where companies pay out sometimes billions, but it is worth it to them because they have made much more than the lawsuit is settled for. GlaxoSmithKline paid out a $3B fine but the year they did had profits of over $8B. If he settled for millions, which no one here knows, the NFL still made billions in that time, somewhere around $16 billion in the 2 years. He may have made some in the suit but after paying his attorneys and figuring he may not get signed to play again after being out of football for 2 years, he may call it a win but is it really? Can those that don't even know what the settlement is truthfully say it is a win for him.
well no CRAP lol. its not Kaepernick VS. the NFL with one trying to destroy the other. comparing profits is stupid. It was a lawsuit related to collusion and the deck was extremely stacked against the kid and he got the NFL to back down and settle. a win is a win
Also keep in mind the burden of proof on collusion is extremely high. The standard is clear and convincing which is way higher than preponderance and just a step below beyond a reasonable doubt. Which makes the fact the NFL settled even more remarkable and tells us that is a strong likelihood there was some pretty damning evidence contained in the the texts and emails that were shared during discovery.
Kaepernick will be treated kindly by people sympathetic to his bogus cause and since that includes 95% of the media those folks will feel righteous. Kaepernick will be treated harshly by folks that think he was a fraud. Just the way it is. That’s what this country has become over the last 20 years.
Like I said it's a combination of play and the possibility of bad publicity. Being Kaep, as you said, "was the face and the one primarily responsible for the protest" that is going to bring more publicity that Reid who many fans may not have even known was part of the protests. Combine that with his 4-16 record in his last 20 starts and you have a combination that likely paid a big part in him not being signed. Josh Johnson made what would have worked out to about $800K if he played the full season. Kaepernick would have likely had a contract offer in 2017 if he wasn't pushing for starter money, now 2 seasons missed he'll likely have a much harder time.
How is comparing profits stupid? Businesses make decisions based upon their bottom line, to dismiss it as if it was not a consideration is extremely shortsighted. I find it funny how from your view the NFL backed down and settled, Kaepernick also backed down. I guess the 97% of lawsuits that settle before trial has everyone backing down or is it only the defendants in the lawsuits that back down? Also how was the deck extremely stacked against him, from what I read from posters here the NFL was going to go down in a ball of flames with all this collusion evidence against them.
That's not why he will be treated kindly. He will be treated kindly because most people who didn't like what he did don't like the idea of big companies blackballing people illegally. Most people aren't owners and have had experiences with some very tough owners. Granted many people dislike Black men earning millions and having the means to stand up for themselves. The Alt right is practically built on it. I'm not saying that's why you hate Kaep. I'm saying it plays a huge part in this.
it was largely an afterthought until a twitter personality decided to tweet about it a lot. At that point those that worshipped him became more outraged. I think thats the big thing with certain people- whatever their hero says, they follow along. I dont think Kaepernick or the NFL expected all that
Holy shit. Did my admission just put the NFL at risk? When is my deposition? Let’s be adults here can we? If we’re having an honest discussion?
I'm not making a statement about every lawsuit on the books. I was commenting on this particular case
The liberal snowflake tears are becoming strong in this thread. You dudes just get triggered rather than having an honest debate. It’s what you do.
It is so sad that discourse in America has come to this. Agree with my opinion or you’re [fill in outrage insult of the day].
So you don't think the NFL was taking into consideration the effect publicity from a trial would have on their bottom line?
