a classic slot receiver these days is the darting, very quick player with good hands... neither cotchery, smith, clowney or keller fit that description completely.... its a very important position in this offense to make defenses respect the pasing game and take the heat off the running game. oh and who really cares what herm has to say. jil
I like Herm but he was a tard of a HC sometimes(remember his clock management) I remember when Willie Randolph lost his job and said NY doesnt like black coaches cus we chased the Great Herm Edwards out.
Herm and Willie both sucked at their profession, they weren't fired because they were black or yellow or whatever. they were fired because they sucked at managing the intangibles of their respective games while given rosters loaded with talent.
Yet Herm and Willie were both definitely superior to their replacements (Mangini and Manuel.) Sure, that says more about the Jets and Mets inability to make smart hires than it does about the coaches in question, but it's interesting food for thought. As for the actual question at hand, Herm is wrong. The Colts are the team to beat in the AFC until someone actually beats them.
Since when?? This was Herm's first year, how could his kiss be deadly already?? I thought SI was the KOD?
No, your point is not that simple. Let me break your post down for you. Funny, when things were going well at any point in the season, this board was as far from complaint as I have ever seen it. That's bullshit. When I see an analyst worth a shit that has an intelligent reason why the Jets do or don't have a chance, I give them credit. Point out where exactly Herm has made an intelligent analytical point about WHY the Jets will be the team to beat. I'm not going to give him a handjob because he threw the Jets a bone before any offseason moves are made. Hell, before anyone has been able to polish the Saints' fingerprints from the latest Lombardi Trophy. I don't hate Herman Edwards, but that's not what your post is implying with the second part, anyway. You post is implying that we should have some sort of blind loyalty for a man that took us to the playoffs a few times. Any small shred of loyalty I had toward Herm died the moment I discovered that he was being courted by the Kansas City Chiefs DURING THE 2005 SEASON WHILE HE WAS STILL THE COACH OF THE JETS. I think that Mangini definitely deserves a fair amount of credit for the way this team is assembled, and have never made any bones about it. But of course, that doesn't play into your generalization of ALL JETS FANS. However, I do criticize him for things that went wrong here, like the loss of Vilma, the rigid and inflexible approach to defense and personnel management, and the abandonment of his defensive philosophy while our playoff chances were still alive in 2008. Let's see... you live in SOUTH FLORIDA, and 'most people say jets fans are obnoxious'. Well, I can't imagine why that would be...
Herm's definitely sucking up for a new job with the jets organization he probably wants to be our DB Coach or sumthin
revis and leonard. we have other guys but they suck and/or have a good chance of not being on the team next year my bad forgot about lowery. we have 3 guys in the secondary
i agree with pretty much everything you said. i didn't post this because i thought it was a big deal or anything. i figured we get a few herm jokes and maybe a decent discussion about our chances next year. i also think its funny they even bother having these guys make this predictions. the roster of almost every team is going to look very different by the time september rolls around.
Yeah, I kind of figured that. I just got annoyed with the idea of Herm making predictions at all, given the extreme lacksadaisical approach that he took to his first 'analyst' position after he got run out of Kansas City on a rail. I think Herm stopped caring about X's and O's football the moment he stopped wearing an Eagles uniform. Why anyone would employ him as an analyst is beyond me. They should just make him a color man on some crappy sportscasting team and get it over with.
well he sure didn't seem to care about them when he was the jets coach. hearing him say that cotchery should move to the slot baffled me. i don't know what his issue with cotch is but refusing to give him any playing time when everyone with eye's could see that he was the second best wr we had at the time was just awful. the only reason he has a job is because of his press conferences with us. all he does is make crazy analogies that usually make no sense at all. but he says it in a t.v. friendly way so the fact that he has no worthwhile football analysis is of little importance to espn.
Remember, this is the same secondary that produced 3rd least passing yds allowed by any team in the last 18 years. Manning picked us apart and we are seeing signs of panicking. I hope we don't make another DeWayne Robertson Panic call again. We have good depth at CB, just don't have that #2. If we pick up a #2, that pushes Lito/Lowery/Strickland on to 3rd and 4th receivers. As for Cotchery, if he moves to slot, he can tear things up. But for that to happen, we need like an Andre Johnson or Larry like WR, which certainly won't happen this yr, so the whole point is moot. And yes, we have narrowed the gap between us and Patriots, it not completely erased it and moved ahead of them. The 2010s era will be ours to lose!
your assuming the jets are keeping everyone the only guy's that i think are safely on the team next year are revis, lowery, and leonard. everyone else is up in the air at this point. can lowery be a #2 in this league? i think its a possibility but i am not comfortable going into next year with him in that spot with no competition. with this defense we need 5,6 maybe 7 guys who can see the field in the secondary. injuries are gonna happen and we can't be reliant on on nickel back to get us through the game against colts next year. cotchery could play the slot on third down plays if the jets find another receiver but there is no way that cotch becomes a strict slot guy. i didn't make it clear in the op but herm said we needed another "#1 type guy" they asked him about braylon and herm said cotch needed to move inside and they needed to get someone else to play opposite braylon. that is not gonna happen because cotch is way more talented than herm will ever give him credit for. of course we have narrowed the gap between the pats, but even as a relatively young fan i have seen this story before. rookie head coach comes in and takes the team to unimagined levels in his first year... sounds so familiar it almost hurts. i think rex is a different breed than mangini, but he has to improve next year if he wants to make the jets the consistent contenders they can be. i have nothing but confidence in rex, but i'm not gonna start predicting anything at this point. the nfl changes too much from year to year to ever be confident in this type of thing until we see the team playing next year.
