JD’s Next Move

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  1. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    If the cap is a myth why are we debating who has to pay Rodgers? This cap is a myth is silly. It can be manipulated for a season or two but you eventually have to pay on the back end, and it can create an exodus in the locker room when guys have to restructure and still lose.

    The key to the cap is the draft. You have to bring in a few quality NFL starters every draft to keep the books and roster healthy at the same time. The last draft was the only draft JD has done that, and it took 2 top 10 picks to accomplish. We currently have 5 picks in 2023 and may be giving up others for a rental QB.
     
  2. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Ridder, correct?
     
  3. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    It's been a long time since we've had a player with this much money on the books though. Rodgers Is going to command a good amount of our cap space. We were already going to be tight with money before the possibility of signing a VET QB.

    I'm not pitching this shouldn't happen, I'm just saying... The cap, Is real. You can't fit whoever you want, however you want. Adding high money contracts doesn't come without some form of consequence. Now or later.

    The Rams are struggling after they manipulated the cap enough to fit a bunch of high contracts on their team. They won a Super Bowl, so It was worth It, but they are struggling financially now.

    This, cap is a myth mantra, just doesn't make sense to me.
     
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    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    Why wouldn't I? It Is real. lol

    There Isn't a layer underneath this though. I'm not using this to deter anything, I'm not making a point for or against.

    I'm simply stating, cap space does exist. If they are negligent with It, consequences will follow In some form or another. Now or later. It's a thing.
     
  5. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    See the Saints.
     
  6. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    See the Rams.

    .. and those consequences will follow for The Saints as well. Now or later.
     
  7. ouchy

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    You laugh at taking a chance on a guy like RIdder but he has more potential to be a FQB then our vaulted 2nd pick. Mills could develop in a better situation as well. I thought finding a FQB was a priority around here, but apparently its rushing into a rental QB which will set us back for years, for one season of spicy drama. Taking a year with a developing QB while we finish building the roster is the smartest move for us at this juncture. But JDs moves have closed the door on a completed rebuild and now this will be his Jets legacy.
     
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  8. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Funny how 2 QB's will make or break a GM's legacy. JD will be known for: Drafting Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner as plusses. He'll be known for drafting Zach Wilson and Becton as negatives. I guess AR is the tiebreaker here... Looking at the 2024-25 NYJ's will ultimately tell how good a job JD did in '23. Or not....
     
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  9. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    The impulsive and risky Zach pick alone made JD's legacy. We'd be closer to the eagles right now if he would have traded the pick and worked the 2021 draft the right way. Trading up has also been a stumbling block for our roster. Its why we have no depth anywhere but DL.
     
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  10. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Becton will be a negative. I think he will end up a perennial pro bowler. And don't forget Breece Hall and AVT.
     
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    I keep seeing reports that Cleveland is interested in trading for Elijah Moore. I wonder if JD is considering it?
     
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    Should he?
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Yep... Forgot those two guys... 4-2 advantage Douglas!
     
  14. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    He's not perfect but he's been the best we've had in two decades. They guy has drafted some nice players and made some great trades. Maybe I'm looking at it though green colored glasses but when I look at the past GM's I think I'm right. We could always go back to the days of Leon Hess who didn't even have a GM and used his Jewish accountant Those were remarkable times!
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Compared to the idiots we had at GM, he looks like a genius. Its all relative though. Anyone would look compared to Idzik and MacCagnan. How would you rate him to Tannenbaum who I think was the last competent GM we had.
     
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    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    I think he much better at drafting that T. About the same on the cap and FA. JD is better with trades. My opinion.
     
  17. Jets79

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    I think he’s on par with Tannenbaum. I give Tanny a TON of credit for fixing the OL in ONE offseason. He drafted Brick and Mangold and signed Faneca and Woody as free agents and presto…top 5 OL. He drafted a first ballot hall,of famer in Revis and a very good LB in Harris to anchor the other side of the ball. He did great. Unfortunately, he also failed at QB with Sanchez and then he got way too cute with trade ups and 3 or 4 player drafts and it did us in.

    but he was a pretty good GM.

    I think JD is on his level…and I think JD is building g a very good foundation with young players like AVT and Hall and Sauce and G Wilson. He also failed with Zach but picking QBs carries a pretty high failure rate so to me I’m not going to kill him for it. I think he should have started really fixing the OL sooner instead of starting with third tier guys his first offseason.

    but overall he inherited a team devoid of talent and has turned that around I think so the arrow is pointing up.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I heard people say for like 5 straight years how the Rams were about to be in cap hell because of all the premier signings they were making. They never stopped. I heard that the Saints were about to be in cap hell, and they just signed one of the top free agent quarterbacks on the market before anyone could blink.

    I'll wait until it actually happens before I care.
     
  19. LAJet

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    And Cleveland, and Denver, and now Carolina, pissing away key picks for the next two years. While Chicago will wrap talent around the team with key picks and give Fields every chance.
     
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  20. KingRoach

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    Are you using the Super Bowl winning Rams as an example of what not to do?
     

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