Jets will rely on the 'foundation' of the defense and play more four-man fronts

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  1. jetsclaps

    jetsclaps Well-Known Member

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    If Coples lives up to his billing the Jets can have one of the best D lines in football. No one's running up the middle with DeVito and Pouha.
     
  2. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Davis' leadership was compared to Lewis by none other than Rex Ryan who would call every player on his team a future HOFr if given enough mic time. No one else compared him to Lewis so throwing that out there is pretty weak.
     
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    There is another reason that a number of teams will be back in a 4 man DL, especially in passing down. That reason is to have that extra man on the inside to pressure the middle of the pocket.

    One of the keys to the explosive offenses of the Pats Packers, Saints, etc, is the ability to make short quick passes negating the possibility to get to the QB from the outside. Good QB's who can consistently make good decisions can beat outside rushes but stepping up in the pocket. If your inside rush can prevent that, then the outside rush will be more effective.

    The inside pass rusher has now become more important. That's why Fletcher Cox went from a guy who would be there late in the first round, went at 12. It was also the reason KC reached for Dontari Poe at 11, because if he ever performed to those sick numbers he managed at the Combine, KC would have a unique threat to combat the current prolific passing attacks. To KC it was worth the risk.

    Look for more and more teams to utilize outside rusher on the inside as well. Its the way that defenses are evolving to slow down these passing attacks. 4 pure pass rushers along with 5-6 CB types in the secondary, with LB's become the new dinosaurs
     
  4. nycarl

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    Here's a quote I found from David Harris-

    “Demario is a step beyond any rookie that I’ve seen,” Harris said. “To be as young as he is, he is very mature. He’s very dedicated and focused on his craft. He’s always one of the first guys out at practice and one of the last guys to leave the field, and that’s always encouraging to see from a rookie.”

    Seems others are as impressed with Davis as Rex is. It's a tad early to compare him to Lewis but others see his potential as well.

    http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2012/06/14/harris-new-dad-new-man-on-the-field/
     
  5. Burnz

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  6. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    That's an entirely different thing than saying "Demario Davis, who is being compared to Ray Lewis" ...

    I never said there wasn't anything to be excited about.
     
  7. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Good outlook....

    With teams gearing up their Defense to counter the league's passing attacks, a true ground and pound team like the Jets are striving for could make for a 60 minute nightmare for all those 'skinny' pass defenders teams are drafting.

    edit: I recall a raider game not long ago where Al Davis ran the ball 20+ straight times against the jets, who could not stop what they knew was coming. That sucked. Hopefully WE can lay that kind of 'suck' on other teams.
     
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    I absolutely love that all our young guys on defense are now on the line. It allows Rex to do what he's great at, creating mismatches and disguising his pass-rushing talent.

    I wouldn't put too much stock into 'playing more 4-3' fronts...we'll be throwing every look at everyone.
     
  10. nyjcanada

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    I hope there is an over-haul at safety. None of Smith, Landry or Bell are reliable.
     
  11. JETFIGHTERS

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    4-3 base defense

    This is it. The only thing in this is the linebackers role which is HUGE to make this work, The LB's have to be fast and speedy against pass and run. Thomas can stop the run but is a liabily on the pass. Can Harris be the middle LB? With all the LB's the NYJ's have, they have to make the sound decision to place the "best" LB corp they can. The 4-3 depends on it. I have no reservations about the front four or the CB's.

    That may mean some of our favorites may not play accordinging to "sceme" This will no doubt change the very dynamics of the LB Corps. No doubt. Unlike Herm, Rex will play "his very best" no favortism and no senority. Rex does not care about former "pro bowl status" He will play his best players period. I like that. Davis will see a lot of action. Bet.

    The front four will be "dominating" Pouha, Divito in the middle, Couples and Muhammed out side with "heavy rotation of Ellis" and a few rotational players. This will be "lights out bitches!" on the DL. We got the "best" DL coach with Dunbar, hands down.

    I am just concerned about the LB's. What I mean by concern is "who will man up?" Mauga, Davis, Bellore, Maybin, Davis and Berning others could see a lot of action. That means best "man up"

    We have a concern about safety with Smith, I could see Antonio Allen slide in to take his place by mid-season or end of season, but it is a little concern considering the big time upgrade, with Bell and Landry if healty. I feel confident that a safety will stand up to make this work. We have "knock out corners" that no team can ever compare to.

    "I LOVE IT!"
     
  12. Red Menace

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    Its a copycat league, the Giants have proven that an excellent four man rush can neutralize any offense.

    I'm glad their going in this direction as I have been a 4-3 fan all of my life and I like the flexibility of the team, sometimes the draft might not have the players suited for the scheme the team runs, but for them to be willing to adjust the scheme to the players skill sets, I like it alot.
     
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    I don't know if you guys read this already so sorry in advance.

    Santonio says Sparano’s offense lets the Jets have more fun
    Posted by Michael David Smith on June 17, 2012, 6:12 AM EDT
    Santonio Holmes AP

    Jets receiver Santonio Holmes didn’t appear to be having fun at minicamp last week, but he says he expects to have plenty of fun this season.

    Holmes told Jenny Vrentas of the Star-Ledger that from what he’s seen of Sparano’s offense so far, it will give quarterback Mark Sanchez and the receivers more flexibility to adjust based on the coverage they see, and that players like having that freedom.

    “It allows us to have a little bit more fun,” Holmes said. “And to know when you mess up, it’s on us or the quarterback, because of a certain sight or certain be-where-you-are-supposed-to-be-at type deal.”

    Problems could arise if Holmes and Sanchez read a defense differently, but Holmes says he thinks Sanchez will thrive in the offense.

    “It gives [Sanchez] options now,” Holmes said. “He doesn’t have to stare down one receiver to get him the ball. He can throw the ball wherever he wants to, based on the coverage.”


    And that’s enough to make the often unhappy Holmes happy. For now, anyway.
     
  14. championjets69

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    Way to slow including Harris :sad:
     

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